[D-G] Deleuze and Guattari on Brexit
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Tue Jan 8 14:33:52 PST 2019
i don't understand much your interest into this guy.
the contradiction is unapparent because Deleuze and Guattari themselves
were producing in ATP a state of exception: they tried to accelerate the
from the lines with such claims as "the state is never progressively
the migrants from UK who built the USA, were called the Founding Fathers.
They are a state and church copulation. Or maybe its me who's wrong, and
some benefits in America, creating an escape from Medieval Europe.
Yet, I admire your visionary insistence upon calling into question Medieval
I don't know: do you see him as a burden for you? What if the US Government
to Turkey? Who's by the way in charge of disagreeing with the executive
orders in case they are written?
You seem to prefer Erdogan over Gulen? I understand Gulen is less hair
splitting than Erdogan.
The advantage when you let the imagination dream about Gulen in Turkey,
with helping the case of the Ghersi revolt (because Gulen is a
psychological tool ) What do you see the Earth looking alike
in the future? Do you see a return of the Ottoman Empire? Will it be some
post World War I autocratic sharia regime?
Le lun. 7 janv. 2019 à 17:47, Mike Lansing <badger2 at mail2world.com> a
> Gulen's movement is to meld church and state via sharia law. Here one
> think of xian Democrats in Italy, or Badiou's "underside of law, the
> non-law within law," so Gulen's presence in Pennsylvania does matter
> just as Islamic immigrants matter in Europe. D&G have much more to say
> about the Gulen-style Colonizer in AO and ATP, and Gulen's refugia real
> estate was presupposed in Guattari's Schizoanalytic Cartographies,
> Figure 1.4. If you have opened to page 32, you can see the diagram: '
> stratified flows<--------> splitting of the self <-------> territorial
> refuges for the repressed.' Gulen's Pennsylvania hideout may not remain
> a refuge if he is deported.
> The tricky part of it concerns U.S. troop withdrawal from Syria: Turkey
> vs. Kurds, the latter being U.S. allies against ISIS, though Turkey
> accuses Gulenists of aligning with Kurdish against the Turkish state.
> In Paul Klebnikov's Razgovor s varvarom (Conversations with a
> Barbarian), the radical Chechen islamist Nukhaev describes his project
> as "state-building." This church-and-state copulation is Gulen's modus
> operandi, reminiscent of the Colonizer in Creek territory. The
> contradiction is that Deleuze and Guattari think that the State always
> arises already fully formed.
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