[D-G] University program on Brexit and Yellow Jacket (about << multiplicities in rhetoric>>)

Mike Lansing badger2 at mail2world.com
Wed Dec 12 10:33:27 PST 2018 

Dead List News 12 Dec 2018

10 Dec 2018 Americans, Learn from the Yellow Jackets: Stop Running and
Start Fighting Back
https://townhall.com/columnists/arthurschaper/2018/12/10/americans-learn
-from-the-yellowjackets-stop-running-and-start-fighting-back-n2537215

17 Jan 2017 Slavoj Zizek on Trump and Brexit -- BBC News
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZUCemb2plE

12 Dec 2018 Theresa May: Change in Leadership Could Delay Brexit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fap9M9rE8Lw




<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Johnatan Petterson [internet.petterson at gmail.com]
>Sent: 12/12/2018 11:34:38 AM
>To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
>Subject: Re: [D-G] University program on Brexit and Yellow Jacket
(about 
><< multiplicities in rhetoric>>)
>
>What do you mean?
>
>Le mer. 12 déc. 2018 à 18:25, Mike Lansing <badger2 at mail2world.com> a
>écrit :
>
>> Sorry, the list is dead, though Zizek has things to say about Brexit
on
>> youtube.
>>
>> Ed
>>
>> <-----Original Message----->
>> >From: Johnatan Petterson [internet.petterson at gmail.com]
>> >Sent: 12/11/2018 4:40:04 PM
>> >To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
>> >Subject: Re: [D-G] University program on Brexit and Yellow Jacket
>> (about
>> ><< multiplicities in rhetoric>>)
>> >
>> >Hi Mike.
>> >
>> >I am sorry. The List is Dead.
>> >Besides I am working on a Novel wherein I could integrate
>> DeleuzeGuattari
>> >stuffs.
>> >And a movie, I said it before.
>> >I had hopes for opensource Blender. I have some hope in 3D, how
>> building in
>> >3D and 2D within Augmented Reality
>> >etc could help people build something instead of going to the shrink
>> or to
>> >uni.
>> >Instead Blender pretends it is open source, but like the false 
>pledges
>> of
>> >Macron, there is an abyss coming up.
>> >I see loads of Zombis and not enough Androids.
>> >The Androids are connected to the Center of the Galaxy.
>> >The Zombi work for Google, Macron.
>> >They are off set. Yet they MUST work HARD.
>> >This is the way the world seem set to be, towards pronto apocalyps.
>> >We have to wait for a nuclear war between the West and Russia and 
>Iran.
>> >Loads of unnecessary problems. Sorry see ya around.
>> >
>> >Johhnnny !
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Le lun. 10 déc. 2018 à 23:42, Mike Lansing 
><badger2 at mail2world.com> a
>> >écrit :
>> >
>> >> We are interested in D&G concepts if this list is still active. 
>UK's
>> >> desired sovereignty is problematic and might be viewed through a
>> >> Derridean lens. The narcissicists of petroleum addiction seem to
>> always
>> >> outnumber Zola's train riders.
>> >>
>> >> <-----Original Message----->
>> >> >From: Johnatan Petterson [internet.petterson at gmail.com]
>> >> >Sent: 12/9/2018 5:39:12 AM
>> >> >To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
>> >> >Subject: Re: [D-G] University program on Brexit and Yellow 
>Jacket
>> >> (about
>> >> ><< multiplicities in rhetoric>>)
>> >> >
>> >> >Dear Deleuzo-Guattary attendants,
>> >> >
>> >> >I thought to forward this from a friend on nettime mailing-
>list
>> >> >
>> >> >Marine, She is the daughter of a famous Pirate (Capitaine 
>Crochet is
>> >> his
>> >> >public name)
>> >> >
>> >> > I send it to you because it's part of an University
>> inter-university
>> >> >program
>> >> >where application of the Deleuze & Guattari concepts are 
>executed in
>> >> >Politcal rhetoric:
>> >> >part of an Inactual Intervention on the topic of Brexit, 
>Western
>> >> Politics,
>> >> >and Yellow Jackets,
>> >> >
>> >> >here the key concepts (imposed subject) were:
>> >> >
>> >> ><<disjunctive synthesis<<, <<opinion as
>> >solid<<,
>> >> ><<Cartesian doubt
>> >> >method<<, <<multiplicity versus ONE<<, and
>> >> ><<incarnation of ONE<<
>> >> >
>> >> >I hope Marine Crochet sturdy ideas, to stir pronto some more 
>debate
>> >on
>> >> your
>> >> >DG list...
>> >> >
>> >> >Multi-Bacci a tutti !!
>> >> >
>> >> >Johnny Pett
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>> Dear List,
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> I am living in a French environment, even though 
>not in
>> >France.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> that's the historic of my opinions:
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 1) first I thought it was the wrong idea to go on 
>strike
>> >against
>> >> the
>> >> >oil
>> >> >>> taxes when the "Bonnets Rouges" also
>> >> >>> stroke against a similar eco friendly tax on 
>traffic, back
>> >in the
>> >> >>> Segolene Royal Hollande years.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 2) but then, i got to see the Tikkun Bloom related 
>Lundi
>> >Matin
>> >> hebdo,
>> >> >who
>> >> >>> was trying to demonstrate how Yellow Jackets
>> >> >>> make dysfunction the "dysfunctions" (ie the States 
>Apparatus
>> >one)
>> >> and
>> >> >>> explaining how important it was to change your 
>habits
>> >> >>> according to "Yellow Jackets" way of 
>demonstrations.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> 3) now i think Macron will listen, and his 
>Government shall
>> >listen
>> >> to
>> >> >the
>> >> >>> constrains on the infrastructure change Yellow 
>Jackets
>> >> >>> demand, like the one on re-nationalization of La 
>Poste and
>> >SNCF
>> >> >(Trains).
>> >> >>> It is totally compatible to his ideas on giving 
>Fibre
>> >Optique (ADSL)
>> >> >>> to every one in France, however remote you are from 
>big
>> >towns.
>> >> Yellow
>> >> >>> Jackets indeed agree to the eco friendliness, and 
>opt for
>> >more
>> >> train
>> >> >lines
>> >> >>> being
>> >> >>> constructed.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Besides I believe the French Government is stuck, 
>because
>> >Macron
>> >> >wants
>> >> >>> more of an European semi International or say 
>"Democrats"
>> >(in the us
>> >> >>> politics use of the word)
>> >> >>> plastic "globalism", which he understands to go 
>alongside
>> >his way to
>> >> >>> decipher what "French Universalism" stands for (cfr 
>previous
>> >UN
>> >> >assembly
>> >> >>> discourse by Macron, where he
>> >> >>> paused as a Trump critic.)
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> And perhaps its a chance for him to show how 
>versatile can
>> >be his
>> >> >>> spirits. And adopt a deeper way of changing France
>> >infrastructure.
>> >> >Deeper,
>> >> >>> of course, in this sense
>> >> >>> that it is democratic, egalitarian, and that 
>people's desire
>> >are
>> >> >taken
>> >> >>> into account in the more extended way as possible, 
>even so
>> >more
>> >> >assuredly
>> >> >>> when they themselves
>> >> >>> try to show responsibility and show restrain 
>towards the
>> >violence
>> >> >this
>> >> >>> last Saturday, a bit like Toni Negri & Hardt, in 
>the end of
>> >> >Multitudes.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Now, I think Britain needs to have someone who in 
>charge of
>> >> Politics,
>> >> >can
>> >> >>> combine in her or his reasoning the different 
>factors of the
>> >> >questions of a
>> >> >>> very fractured opinions on the issue of Brexit.
>> >> >>> I think mostly this shall encompass keeping the 
>argument of
>> >working
>> >> >"in
>> >> >>> the nations interest".
>> >> >>> So that the interest of the "nation of Britain", is 
>that
>> >some
>> >> >agreement
>> >> >>> between the Leave feeling and the Remain feeling 
>gets
>> >rightly
>> >> >assorted, so
>> >> >>> that Britain can effectively
>> >> >>> answer to the majority of the first referendum 
>call, and at
>> >the same
>> >> >>> moment become able to allow "Britain" as a 
>Sovereign Person,
>> >to be
>> >> >able to
>> >> >>> talk about Herself or Himself as
>> >> >>> someone not Fractured. That is accepting the 
>disjunctive
>> >synthesis
>> >> of
>> >> >>> Being Fractured (as it is shown above to be between 
>various
>> >desires
>> >> >and
>> >> >>> opinions), and being ONE.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> May be for you who pay attention to the Marxist 
>discourse
>> >cases of
>> >> >entry
>> >> >>> in the logs of discourse, such a disjunctive 
>synthesis may
>> >sound
>> >> >uncanny.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Yet, I believe Politics is too much looked at from 
>the angle
>> >of the
>> >> >non
>> >> >>> practical in this nettime group. Too often have I 
>been led
>> >astray
>> >> >reading
>> >> >>> drifting theoretical quasi rhetorical discussions
>> >> >>> which will never help any whatsoever change in the 
>world
>> >affairs.
>> >> >Not, I
>> >> >>> guess, even weigh in on the most advanced avant-
>garde
>> >leftist
>> >> >political
>> >> >>> force there is, if not
>> >> >>> just to add a little on the resentment which is 
>only part of
>> >the
>> >> >>> theoretical neurons in your many brains.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Britain must be understood by someone, in the 
>elected crowd
>> >of
>> >> >people,
>> >> >>> (is by the way this Theresa May still part of the 
>elected
>> >body?) i
>> >> >mean
>> >> >>> Britain must be understood
>> >> >>> and explained to the whole nation, by the same 
>single one
>> >individual
>> >> >>> elected human character, in one single intellectual 
>&
>> >political
>> >> >movement,
>> >> >>> it must be understood, and explained.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> If there is not such a person currently in Britain, 
>then, we
>> >will
>> >> >have
>> >> >>> trouble.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> This might certainly sound like a call to 
>reflexion, on the
>> >notion
>> >> >of
>> >> >>> "multiplicity" and it is not a call to strong 
>leadership (of
>> >> course)
>> >> >it is
>> >> >>> a call to
>> >> >>> letting something sensible, go transparent, through 
>the
>> >situation,
>> >> >which
>> >> >>> is too complex to be understood at this moment, for
>> >> >>> lack of conceptual quality in the reflexion groups 
>and
>> >"think
>> >> tanks"
>> >> >such
>> >> >>> as nettime or elsewhere.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> People on the net instead of discussing their 
>opinions,
>> >should try
>> >> to
>> >> >>> change the tools with which they understand the 
>current and
>> >recent
>> >> >becoming
>> >> >>> of this world.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Perhaps, the scientific community, the one who 
>obeys the
>> >doctrine of
>> >> >>> "doubt" (and NOT opinions which are too solid) is 
>perhaps
>> >more
>> >> >naturally
>> >> >>> elected to see through this situation,
>> >> >>> than the opinion class which is ruling over the 
>debates and
>> >over the
>> >> >>> Governments of UE or US since a few twenty or so 
>years.
>> >> >>> This, i get a feeling that Donald Trump had 
>understood, yet,
>> >> >>> unfortunately for everybody his actual somewhat 
>sick limited
>> >> >behavior, do
>> >> >>> not stand as the leader, for the solving the 
>problems of his
>> >time.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> So maybe we hope Macron will understand how to 
>reconsider
>> >his own
>> >> >very
>> >> >>> Philosophy and its very Foundations.
>> >> >>> And listen to the change(s) asked by the 
>multiplicity of his
>> >> >electorates.
>> >> >>> And propose a set of public discussion in a way 
>which
>> >> >>> would not necessarily destroy everything in France 
>in UE or
>> >on
>> >> Earth.
>> >> >He
>> >> >>> can invent, he's got a lot of tools with the 
>digital.
>> >> >>> Maybe perhaps as well listen to the nettime opinion 
>and
>> >create new
>> >> >>> alternative (to Twitter and Facebook etc) for just 
>the sake
>> >of this
>> >> >public
>> >> >>> discussion to be set straight, about and on topic 
>the exact
>> >right
>> >> >decisions
>> >> >>> to accomplish, which will be passed by him Macron, 
>or the
>> >next
>> >> >successor
>> >> >>> in Government(s).
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>> Best in heart,
>> >> >>> Marine, daughter of a pirate.
>> >> >>>
>> >> >>>
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