[D-G] University program on Brexit and Yellow Jacket (about << multiplicities in rhetoric>>)

Wed Dec 12 09:37:38 PST 2018

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Le mer. 12 déc. 2018 à 18:25, Mike Lansing <badger2 at mail2world.com> a
écrit :

> Sorry, the list is dead, though Zizek has things to say about Brexit on
> youtube.
>
> Ed
>
> <-----Original Message----->
> >From: Johnatan Petterson [internet.petterson at gmail.com]
> >Sent: 12/11/2018 4:40:04 PM
> >To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> >Subject: Re: [D-G] University program on Brexit and Yellow Jacket
> (about
> ><< multiplicities in rhetoric>>)
> >
> >Hi Mike.
> >
> >I am sorry. The List is Dead.
> >Besides I am working on a Novel wherein I could integrate
> DeleuzeGuattari
> >stuffs.
> >And a movie, I said it before.
> >I had hopes for opensource Blender. I have some hope in 3D, how
> building in
> >3D and 2D within Augmented Reality
> >etc could help people build something instead of going to the shrink
> or to
> >uni.
> >Instead Blender pretends it is open source, but like the false pledges
> of
> >Macron, there is an abyss coming up.
> >I see loads of Zombis and not enough Androids.
> >The Androids are connected to the Center of the Galaxy.
> >The Zombi work for Google, Macron.
> >They are off set. Yet they MUST work HARD.
> >This is the way the world seem set to be, towards pronto apocalyps.
> >We have to wait for a nuclear war between the West and Russia and Iran.
> >Loads of unnecessary problems. Sorry see ya around.
> >
> >Johhnnny !
> >
> >
> >
> >Le lun. 10 déc. 2018 à 23:42, Mike Lansing <badger2 at mail2world.com> a
> >écrit :
> >
> >> We are interested in D&G concepts if this list is still active. UK's
> >> desired sovereignty is problematic and might be viewed through a
> >> Derridean lens. The narcissicists of petroleum addiction seem to
> always
> >> outnumber Zola's train riders.
> >>
> >> <-----Original Message----->
> >> >From: Johnatan Petterson [internet.petterson at gmail.com]
> >> >Sent: 12/9/2018 5:39:12 AM
> >> >To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> >> >Subject: Re: [D-G] University program on Brexit and Yellow Jacket
> >> (about
> >> ><< multiplicities in rhetoric>>)
> >> >
> >> >Dear Deleuzo-Guattary attendants,
> >> >
> >> >I thought to forward this from a friend on nettime mailing-list
> >> >
> >> >Marine, She is the daughter of a famous Pirate (Capitaine Crochet is
> >> his
> >> >public name)
> >> >
> >> > I send it to you because it's part of an University
> inter-university
> >> >program
> >> >where application of the Deleuze & Guattari concepts are executed in
> >> >Politcal rhetoric:
> >> >part of an Inactual Intervention on the topic of Brexit, Western
> >> Politics,
> >> >and Yellow Jackets,
> >> >
> >> >here the key concepts (imposed subject) were:
> >> >
> >> ><<disjunctive synthesis<<, <<opinion as
> >solid<<,
> >> ><<Cartesian doubt
> >> >method<<, <<multiplicity versus ONE<<, and
> >> ><<incarnation of ONE<<
> >> >
> >> >I hope Marine Crochet sturdy ideas, to stir pronto some more debate
> >on
> >> your
> >> >DG list...
> >> >
> >> >Multi-Bacci a tutti !!
> >> >
> >> >Johnny Pett
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Dear List,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I am living in a French environment, even though not in
> >France.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> that's the historic of my opinions:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 1) first I thought it was the wrong idea to go on strike
> >against
> >> the
> >> >oil
> >> >>> taxes when the "Bonnets Rouges" also
> >> >>> stroke against a similar eco friendly tax on traffic, back
> >in the
> >> >>> Segolene Royal Hollande years.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 2) but then, i got to see the Tikkun Bloom related Lundi
> >Matin
> >> hebdo,
> >> >who
> >> >>> was trying to demonstrate how Yellow Jackets
> >> >>> make dysfunction the "dysfunctions" (ie the States Apparatus
> >one)
> >> and
> >> >>> explaining how important it was to change your habits
> >> >>> according to "Yellow Jackets" way of demonstrations.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> 3) now i think Macron will listen, and his Government shall
> >listen
> >> to
> >> >the
> >> >>> constrains on the infrastructure change Yellow Jackets
> >> >>> demand, like the one on re-nationalization of La Poste and
> >SNCF
> >> >(Trains).
> >> >>> It is totally compatible to his ideas on giving Fibre
> >Optique (ADSL)
> >> >>> to every one in France, however remote you are from big
> >towns.
> >> Yellow
> >> >>> Jackets indeed agree to the eco friendliness, and opt for
> >more
> >> train
> >> >lines
> >> >>> being
> >> >>> constructed.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Besides I believe the French Government is stuck, because
> >Macron
> >> >wants
> >> >>> more of an European semi International or say "Democrats"
> >(in the us
> >> >>> politics use of the word)
> >> >>> plastic "globalism", which he understands to go alongside
> >his way to
> >> >>> decipher what "French Universalism" stands for (cfr previous
> >UN
> >> >assembly
> >> >>> discourse by Macron, where he
> >> >>> paused as a Trump critic.)
> >> >>>
> >> >>> And perhaps its a chance for him to show how versatile can
> >be his
> >> >>> spirits. And adopt a deeper way of changing France
> >infrastructure.
> >> >Deeper,
> >> >>> of course, in this sense
> >> >>> that it is democratic, egalitarian, and that people's desire
> >are
> >> >taken
> >> >>> into account in the more extended way as possible, even so
> >more
> >> >assuredly
> >> >>> when they themselves
> >> >>> try to show responsibility and show restrain towards the
> >violence
> >> >this
> >> >>> last Saturday, a bit like Toni Negri & Hardt, in the end of
> >> >Multitudes.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Now, I think Britain needs to have someone who in charge of
> >> Politics,
> >> >can
> >> >>> combine in her or his reasoning the different factors of the
> >> >questions of a
> >> >>> very fractured opinions on the issue of Brexit.
> >> >>> I think mostly this shall encompass keeping the argument of
> >working
> >> >"in
> >> >>> the nations interest".
> >> >>> So that the interest of the "nation of Britain", is that
> >some
> >> >agreement
> >> >>> between the Leave feeling and the Remain feeling gets
> >rightly
> >> >assorted, so
> >> >>> that Britain can effectively
> >> >>> answer to the majority of the first referendum call, and at
> >the same
> >> >>> moment become able to allow "Britain" as a Sovereign Person,
> >to be
> >> >able to
> >> >>> talk about Herself or Himself as
> >> >>> someone not Fractured. That is accepting the disjunctive
> >synthesis
> >> of
> >> >>> Being Fractured (as it is shown above to be between various
> >desires
> >> >and
> >> >>> opinions), and being ONE.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> May be for you who pay attention to the Marxist discourse
> >cases of
> >> >entry
> >> >>> in the logs of discourse, such a disjunctive synthesis may
> >sound
> >> >uncanny.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Yet, I believe Politics is too much looked at from the angle
> >of the
> >> >non
> >> >>> practical in this nettime group. Too often have I been led
> >astray
> >> >reading
> >> >>> drifting theoretical quasi rhetorical discussions
> >> >>> which will never help any whatsoever change in the world
> >affairs.
> >> >Not, I
> >> >>> guess, even weigh in on the most advanced avant-garde
> >leftist
> >> >political
> >> >>> force there is, if not
> >> >>> just to add a little on the resentment which is only part of
> >the
> >> >>> theoretical neurons in your many brains.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Britain must be understood by someone, in the elected crowd
> >of
> >> >people,
> >> >>> (is by the way this Theresa May still part of the elected
> >body?) i
> >> >mean
> >> >>> Britain must be understood
> >> >>> and explained to the whole nation, by the same single one
> >individual
> >> >>> elected human character, in one single intellectual &
> >political
> >> >movement,
> >> >>> it must be understood, and explained.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> If there is not such a person currently in Britain, then, we
> >will
> >> >have
> >> >>> trouble.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This might certainly sound like a call to reflexion, on the
> >notion
> >> >of
> >> >>> "multiplicity" and it is not a call to strong leadership (of
> >> course)
> >> >it is
> >> >>> a call to
> >> >>> letting something sensible, go transparent, through the
> >situation,
> >> >which
> >> >>> is too complex to be understood at this moment, for
> >> >>> lack of conceptual quality in the reflexion groups and
> >"think
> >> tanks"
> >> >such
> >> >>> as nettime or elsewhere.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> People on the net instead of discussing their opinions,
> >should try
> >> to
> >> >>> change the tools with which they understand the current and
> >recent
> >> >becoming
> >> >>> of this world.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Perhaps, the scientific community, the one who obeys the
> >doctrine of
> >> >>> "doubt" (and NOT opinions which are too solid) is perhaps
> >more
> >> >naturally
> >> >>> elected to see through this situation,
> >> >>> than the opinion class which is ruling over the debates and
> >over the
> >> >>> Governments of UE or US since a few twenty or so years.
> >> >>> This, i get a feeling that Donald Trump had understood, yet,
> >> >>> unfortunately for everybody his actual somewhat sick limited
> >> >behavior, do
> >> >>> not stand as the leader, for the solving the problems of his
> >time.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> So maybe we hope Macron will understand how to reconsider
> >his own
> >> >very
> >> >>> Philosophy and its very Foundations.
> >> >>> And listen to the change(s) asked by the multiplicity of his
> >> >electorates.
> >> >>> And propose a set of public discussion in a way which
> >> >>> would not necessarily destroy everything in France in UE or
> >on
> >> Earth.
> >> >He
> >> >>> can invent, he's got a lot of tools with the digital.
> >> >>> Maybe perhaps as well listen to the nettime opinion and
> >create new
> >> >>> alternative (to Twitter and Facebook etc) for just the sake
> >of this
> >> >public
> >> >>> discussion to be set straight, about and on topic the exact
> >right
> >> >decisions
> >> >>> to accomplish, which will be passed by him Macron, or the
> >next
> >> >successor
> >> >>> in Government(s).
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Best in heart,
> >> >>> Marine, daughter of a pirate.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
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