[Deleuze-Guattari] Why is this list sabotated so much?

[Dr. Harald Wenk]

Dear over 200 members of this list,

in my eyes it is a little bit puzzling
that there so few mails regarding so much member in this list, that discus
  friendly
and in a manner expressing the wish to understand one another,
the world and the complex philosphy of Deluez Guattari or
Vedanta from India.

I ask me, what someone who wants to sabotate this list in order
to make the understanding and further resaearch
of the complex Deleuze and Guattari philosphy more difficult
and almost impossible.
Some emails in this list do something like this.
This is a pronblem not only for this list,
but if you want to fight a philophy or a theory,
most probaly because you have already another one,
contradictory one,
maybe almost in some professional way,
you may write such "saboating" and "desorientating" emails.
As it is possiblel to get emails accounts with
names you like, this is misused to sabotate discussions.





I remind that some insights from neurology and psychatry
are only to find in Deleuze Guattri -
and even there very hidden.


VEDANTA AND CULTURE


One outstanding problemin logic in philophy
is for sure its cultural
retriction.
Therefore philophical and logical "invarants" or constants
are of high importance,also they may be rooted back
to influences of the cultures.


Vedanta phiophy in India, whic are over one Billion people,
and the philopshy has a tradition about
1500 years, with the "university languge" sanskrit,
which is even more complicated than larin.

In the eyes of some Indian phisophers western
"anti metaphyswics" is a little bit childish,
negelcting that there has to be some ground
of existence and also overriding very
important abilzies and experiences of the human brain.

Am Wed, 05 Sep 2007 02:08:28 +0200 schrieb Wouter Kusters  
<C.W.Kusters at let.ru.nl>:

>> hello,
>>
>> Indeed, but the point was the psychic status of the world and the
>> phantasm,
>> according and Spinoza and Vedanta and ourselves.
>
> OK, so you want to plug in the Venezian Vedanta instead of Pi Ss. OK. No
> problemo!
>
>> One of the points of Deleuze and Guattari is
>> the status of phantasm and real putting together
>> as acting directly on another.
>>
>> The most pragmatic reason for this differentiation was,
>> that almost any information urges to be test if its true
>> or what consequences it has.
>> You have mostly to look at your already known
>> things an has an open question.
>> This may change the course of action and
>> has a super individual tendency.
>> Of special interest is fear,
>> having a great deal of phantasm parts.
>
> Fear of phantasm parts floats between Sadistioc Slim Cruelties and the  
> long
> HIdden Trails of Living Eternal "Minds"? Or perhaps something 'in  
> Reality'?
>
>> The other thing is, looking in the archive,
>> especially in former times
>
> What did they whisper Then?
>
>> there are a lot of emails,
>> for example a program from
>> the university of Budapest
>
> Sounds pretty hammerless to me..
>
>> or a announced monkey who typed,
>> The authors hade made themselves a fun
>> or wanted to hinder a new
>> discussion to be pursued.
>> Especially it is from already known members of  this list.
>>
>>
>> Mostly this destroys
>> the thread of a discussion.
>> The possibility to tell "fun" emails
>> to one having some  kind
>> of demanding more serious tackling
>> is often not so easy.
>
> Completed tasks are often looked back as more easily than in front of it  
> (or
> Them).
>
>> As I wrote often calling Derrida,
>> this is no good ethics of
>> communication or cooperation.
>
> Both communication as well as cooperation have their end watch-towers in
> Endless hidden messages (whether they stem from Budapest, Cairo or some
> other Dribe).
>
>> The "open questions" or "Gestalts"
>> bother one - most striking in
>> false alarms.
>> The "Gestalt is also used as a category. in "Chaosmose" by Guattari.
>>  "Open questions" are the psychic
>> mechanism the "fun" of "fun" emails often relies on.
>>
>> As  Deleuze and Guattari rightly point out,
>> there are different kind of humours.
>>
>> Often for these emails,
>> the intensity  of fun and humour  is very low.
>
> Watch out, their are Friends nearby, whose intensity is out of the  
> questIon.
>
> Do not brother,
>
> WK, from the left of Holland.
>
>
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