[Deleuze-Guattari] The Wound (Deleuze)

fin5tr at leeds.ac.uk fin5tr at leeds.ac.uk
Fri Aug 3 23:43:55 PDT 2007


Hello Gerald,

Thanks very much for your comprehensive reply.

This is for my dissertation. My primary theorist is Deleuze and I'm applying him
to a piece of text by R. D. Laing (Knots).

I was thinking of using the wound (as in "my wound existed before") as a kind of
primal wound of sorts. Rather like how Althusser says that our subjectivity
exists before we are even born (in the Freudian sense). So we are born into our
oedipal trajectory.

Anyway, perhaps I can still do that.

Your email was very helpful, thank you, and gave me some avenues to pursue.

Are you an academic? What is your interest in Deleuze?

Thanks again...

Much appreciated, Tina


Quoting hwenk <hwenk at web.de> on Fri 03 Aug 2007 21:19:35 BST:

> Hello Tina,
>
> there is a new French edition from 1996,
> but I didn't found any translation (here in Germany) - like you, probably.
> The text is the last of Deleuze being published,
> and it is indeed very abstract.
>
> I don't know what you are doing,
> but "the wound" is a reference in a the last footnote where
> the connection between virtuality and
> happenings(?) has been elaborated and concretised.
>
> In a first order approximation
> one could see virtualities as
> dream/perception/thinking(all together, mixed, and differentiating while
> "living") - with emotion from the
> conscious side. But what is happening on the object side?
> A wound is subjective and objective (from medicine).
> The wound has also some objective subjective reality,
> to speak so, as for some  to have a wound is
> in certain limits the same, or recognizable - also understandable,
> also to have a wound is do much subjective that you are
> brought back sometimes to the
> pure life, which is mentioned as example,
> even if a bad guy is going to die,
> one tries to help.
>
> But, as I pointed out,
> I don't what you want.
> Even dreaming of a wound has its objective "effects"
> or thinking of a wound - even if you never get one.
> I am not trying to speak ex cathedra as
> canonical interpretation. Its my own in responding you after reading the
> text.
>
> But texts so abstract as this one from Deleuze are best
> understood to connect it
> to from experience or
> possible experience - what is also the theme of
> the text itself.
>
> So, maybe the question: Working on Deleuze without speaking French?
> Without any loss?
> This is for sure  possible on a B.A. level.
> So, to summarize - I am not aware of a translation of
> Bousquet and I  think to read
> another book of him is not so
> helpful in understand the text of Deleuze.
> Maybe you look in Difference and repetition
> or also in Duns Scot himself - keeping the wound in mind.
> But the text of Sartre is also very important for Deleuze,
> he quotes it in central passages in "what is philosophy".
>
>
> But, I don't what you know or try to do.
>
>
> Greetings Harald Wenk
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: [Deleuze-Guattari] The Wound (Deleuze)
>
>
> In 'Immanence: A Life' Deleuze refers to Bousquet's wound and cites his work
> 'Les Capitales'. Can anyone tell me if this is available in English, please?
> If
> not, does anyone know which translated works of Bousquet refer directly, and
> in
> detail, to the wound.
>
> Also, does anyone know where Deleuze expands on this idea of the wound, if
> he
> does at all. Or if anyone else (say, poststructuralist) does.
>
> Thanks in anticipation, Tina (Cultural Studies BA student)
>
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