[D-G] beyond psychiatry

[maria-belen ordonez]

I think the best way to do psychiatry is to take a position of anti-psychiatry.
Similarly, the best way to be ethical is to be against ethics. Not that I am
situated in a place that can suggest whether such a position "works", however,
there is enough experiential evidence to suggest that any determined discipline
or area of knowledge, is always already from its conception, bound to fail.
Think of professions of social status: Doctors, Lawyers, Teachers--the majority
are doing the necessary work to maintain both a psycho-oppression and a
corporeal one. Anti-Oedipus is a good start, a push not only to re-invent--but
to INVENT at all costs. Deleuze and Guattari (read through Negri and Hardt)
suggest that if you "don't fit", you should, rather than bemoaning the
intensity of conflict, REALIZE YOUR GIFT. It is the gift of living, loving and
working against Oedipus.

mb



Quoting Julia Barclay <julia at flyingoutofsequence.org>:

> I think read the soon to be published in English Guattari notes about
> writing Anti-Oedipus and in general read Anti-Oedipus for the answer to some
> of your original questions.  Keep writing about this, I think.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nicholas lalvani" <nicholaslalvani at hotmail.com>
> To: <deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org>
> Sent: Sunday, February 05, 2006 6:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [D-G] beyond psychiatry
>
>
> >
> >
> > Help me Liza, with you're statement "you gotta invent by yurself away!" As
> > for being mad and going to La Borde clinic, amusingly part of my role as a
> > rebelious psychihatrist, buying patient's cigarettes's and a guitar so
> > that
> > we could we could sing our collective experiences, was vieved by my bosses
> > as being sign of mental illness and after being dismissed I had to see 4
> > psychiatrists before I was deemed fit to reutrn to work as a doctor. They
> > fucked me good and proper for trying to fight on behelf of the patients.
> > There would be no need for me to pretend to be mad, but I don't see
> > anything
> > salvedgeable in British psychiatry given the corruptness at the heart of
> > it.
> > An old friend of mine is now the dean of the Royal College of
> > psychiatrists
> > and when he heard I had been suspended, in part for taking patients out
> > for
> > a walk, buying them cigarettes, playing music etc he said to me "What the
> > hell did you think you were doing, don't you know the patients are themost
> > expendible objects in the system and you're the most next most expendible
> > (I
> > think he was reffering to Junior Doctors). Given that this is coming form
> > the Dean of The Royal College, what hope can there be?
> >
> > I feel like publishing a play based on my experiences but I think there
> > are
> > only a few people who really care.
> >
> > So I think perhaps Delluzian dreams cradle my sorrow but Delluze surely
> > isn't about sorrow?
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >>From: Liza Kozner <liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk>
> >>Reply-To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> >>To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> >>Subject: Re: [D-G] beyond psychiatry
> >>Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2006 17:24:22 +0000 (GMT)
> >>
> >>don't get depressive.
> >>   Isabelle holds loads of links
> >>
> >>    1) what you do brought good. I strongly recommend see Life is
> >> Beautiful
> >>by Capra 2 cure to melancholy and sense of the Tragic in experience (lived
> >>by those strange Professorates Schizopfs) 2)Deleuze has no Systematic
> >>Thinking. he only has becoming, he is unreachable. maybe he is uneffable,
> >>de-proeminent.  there's no feelings they had which they did not reanalysed
> >>in their writings. everything they said could be contradicted in a way by
> >>one word in the Felix Guattari archives., to get to the point. they are
> >>subjected by the readers. their point. so to be truthfullthy with point
> >>theory, you gotta invent by yurself away..
> >>
> >>   Guattari was Psychoanalyser, and was very committed in his experience.
> >>are you young. pretend to be mad go to La Borde where he studied with an
> >>other Doctor. eat the chemicals and do 56 asylum and come back to the list
> >>to publish it here.
> >>
> >>   Regds
> >>   Lizza.:// /
> >>
> >>
> >>nicholas lalvani <nicholaslalvani at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>    I was extremely naive in entering psychiatry with the hope
> >>of achieving anything which the "patients" mind find of value to their
> >>lives.
> >>
> >>I would like to know if there is a good introduction to the work of D+G
> >>which can lead on to further study and also what people's opinions are as
> >>to
> >>whether D+G feel there is anything worthwhile about thepursuit of
> >>psychiatry
> >>at all.
> >>
> >>Yours,
> >>
> >>Nick
> >>
> >>
> >>
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