[D-G] What is the difference between a schizo and a bad poet?

Sylvie Ruelle sylvieruelle at earthlink.net
Sun Feb 20 00:10:38 PST 2005


yes, it was this speaking of speed that made me think of turtles
:)

On Feb 19, 2005, at 5:12 PM, Liza Kozner wrote:

>  Sylvie: I'll keep musing with the turtle idea.
>  Richard Pinhas went to see turtles after Deleuze
> wrote Immanence : Une Vie, and Deleuze died three
> monthes later he wrote it. Look at his site for the
> comments on Deleuze's death. Do you know that Deleuze
> defenestrated in November 1995.How can one, and a
> philsopher, actually kill himself, after giving his
> wife Fanny Deleuze, his children and his friends (
> Richard Pinhas was one of his friends )such a limpid,
> enlightened little text of pure philosophical luminous
> matter? As much as puzzling and horrible an incorporal
> event his death might become for his personnal
> readers, it stroke me in various times as signifying
> something to the same readers which has a size as big
> as was his capacity of human being, of Deleuze the
> turtle to heal our "turtle" heart. We have may-be all
> indeed have become "turtles" like Richard and Fanny
> since Deleuze killed himself by destroying his
> philosophy. Our duty on Earth has changed as it is now
> time to come back to life thanks to his books: we need
> to question dialogue and turtles to become his true
> animals (the insects, not the dogs and the cats) as
> Claire did also when he disappeared from her Human
> Emotions. He died in atroceous sufferings also, but
> unlike Christ did not resurfaced to his disciples in
> human disguise. He took the mask of  those who with
> him became capable to learn how to be readers, or
> turtles, like his animals, but not "them", different
> and not identical (insects but not dead bugs like fake
> non-sensical artists). That's why Richard Pinhas
> insisted deeply onto the possibility Human Beings have
> to produce signs, to re-inject meanings in the absence
> of Emotions on seeing turtles in zoological gardens
> instead than going fast, because after he died Turtles
> went faster tha Achil. He later constructed
> webdeleuze.fr (about Deleuze's Vincennes courses which
> were taking place there every Thuesday) and Zeldon,
> Pinhas own rock band, produced a song about slow
> turtles becoming boulimic of Gilles's ideas.
> --- Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> dialogues and fanny's turtles
>>
>> On Feb 19, 2005, at 4:02 AM, james wrote:
>>
>>> Those of you who would like to express themselves,
>> using their own
>>> language, or an invented one, may I ask if you
>> feel that there are any
>>> prerequisites to moving as fast as you are in
>> language/asignifying
>>> text?  D&G spoke of acceleration.  Indeed, to the
>> limit.  But they
>>> spoke of making yourself into a bwo...a process,
>> with procedures, and
>>> one might even say context.  The risk is always
>> turning such speed
>>> into a line that veers into the abyss (possibly
>> taking some annoyed
>>> list members down with you).
>>>
>>> They are ways of building up speed, and D&G always
>> managed to help
>>> their readers keep up (or at least feel as though
>> there was something
>>> to run after).  Perhaps I could humbly ask that
>> you consider that some
>>> are interested, but if you are in fact trying to
>> express (or dare I
>>> say discuss!) something, remember a responsibility
>> to those who might
>>> take the time to read.  (And no, responsibility
>> does not equal
>>> fascism.)
>>>
>>> Maybe then some of us will be able to deciopherate
>> the wonder in the
>>> accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp  bllaappp!
>> (*&$%&*#)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:06:48 +0000 (GMT), Lucy
>> LeGentilSinge
>>> <lucy100millionyearsold at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> do you know sid that the maximum travaille work
>>>> between property pob travaille bul travaille po
>> fait
>>>> bien mais ne change pas des grenier
>>>>
>>>> hattntione pour la ville de fashisme si elle est
>> la,
>>>> ou alors elle est pas la,
>>>> mathias ni po travailler, mais si tu travaille tu
>>>> verra beaucoup de gens qui cassent le moral des
>> gebs
>>>> cul pob dup cop vine carma
>>>>
>>>> fik
>>>> frute marte sister has translated this for her
>> what
>>>> she wrote, an other idea on your ifea bout you
>> might
>>>> be called fasghist. you advised reading her
>> carefully
>>>> and it's a language she is using to tell you
>> important
>>>> things maybe,
>>>>
>>>>  try to warm, try to make a bull to draw, do,
>> maybe
>>>> then you wil be able to deciopherate the wonder
>> in the
>>>> accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
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