[D-G] What is the difference between a schizo and a bad poet?

[Sylvie Ruelle]

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On Feb 19, 2005, at 5:27 PM, Gondo -Minnie wrote:

>
> Hello.
> How you.? what's the time ;where you live?
>  --- Liza Kozner <liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> The song is called Turtles but it's about anorexic
>> turtles, turtles who stop eating, fasting turtles if
>> you want. It is tyrol signing, but we hear turtles
>> in
>> the background, and the background becomes Deleuze
>> reading the Ethics of Spinoza. On the cover we see a
>> mug full of butter and a turtle swimming upside down
>> in the melted mind of a turtle. It symbolizes the
>> adolescence of the mind.
>>  --- Liza Kozner <liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>  Sylvie: I'll keep musing with the turtle idea.
>>>  Richard Pinhas went to see turtles after Deleuze
>>> wrote Immanence : Une Vie, and Deleuze died three
>>> monthes later he wrote it. Look at his site for
>> the
>>> comments on Deleuze's death. Do you know that
>>> Deleuze
>>> defenestrated in November 1995.How can one, and a
>>> philsopher, actually kill himself, after giving
>> his
>>> wife Fanny Deleuze, his children and his friends (
>>> Richard Pinhas was one of his friends )such a
>>> limpid,
>>> enlightened little text of pure philosophical
>>> luminous
>>> matter? As much as puzzling and horrible an
>>> incorporal
>>> event his death might become for his personnal
>>> readers, it stroke me in various times as
>> signifying
>>> something to the same readers which has a size as
>>> big
>>> as was his capacity of human being, of Deleuze the
>>> turtle to heal our "turtle" heart. We have may-be
>>> all
>>> indeed have become "turtles" like Richard and
>> Fanny
>>> since Deleuze killed himself by destroying his
>>> philosophy. Our duty on Earth has changed as it is
>>> now
>>> time to come back to life thanks to his books: we
>>> need
>>> to question dialogue and turtles to become his
>> true
>>> animals (the insects, not the dogs and the cats)
>> as
>>> Claire did also when he disappeared from her Human
>>> Emotions. He died in atroceous sufferings also,
>> but
>>> unlike Christ did not resurfaced to his disciples
>> in
>>> human disguise. He took the mask of  those who
>> with
>>> him became capable to learn how to be readers, or
>>> turtles, like his animals, but not "them",
>> different
>>> and not identical (insects but not dead bugs like
>>> fake
>>> non-sensical artists). That's why Richard Pinhas
>>> insisted deeply onto the possibility Human Beings
>>> have
>>> to produce signs, to re-inject meanings in the
>>> absence
>>> of Emotions on seeing turtles in zoological
>> gardens
>>> instead than going fast, because after he died
>>> Turtles
>>> went faster tha Achil. He later constructed
>>> webdeleuze.fr (about Deleuze's Vincennes courses
>>> which
>>> were taking place there every Thuesday) and
>> Zeldon,
>>> Pinhas own rock band, produced a song about slow
>>> turtles becoming boulimic of Gilles's ideas.
>>> --- Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle at earthlink.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> dialogues and fanny's turtles
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 19, 2005, at 4:02 AM, james wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Those of you who would like to express
>>> themselves,
>>>> using their own
>>>>> language, or an invented one, may I ask if you
>>>> feel that there are any
>>>>> prerequisites to moving as fast as you are in
>>>> language/asignifying
>>>>> text?  D&G spoke of acceleration.  Indeed, to
>>> the
>>>> limit.  But they
>>>>> spoke of making yourself into a bwo...a
>> process,
>>>> with procedures, and
>>>>> one might even say context.  The risk is
>> always
>>>> turning such speed
>>>>> into a line that veers into the abyss
>> (possibly
>>>> taking some annoyed
>>>>> list members down with you).
>>>>>
>>>>> They are ways of building up speed, and D&G
>>> always
>>>> managed to help
>>>>> their readers keep up (or at least feel as
>>> though
>>>> there was something
>>>>> to run after).  Perhaps I could humbly ask
>> that
>>>> you consider that some
>>>>> are interested, but if you are in fact trying
>> to
>>>> express (or dare I
>>>>> say discuss!) something, remember a
>>> responsibility
>>>> to those who might
>>>>> take the time to read.  (And no,
>> responsibility
>>>> does not equal
>>>>> fascism.)
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe then some of us will be able to
>>> deciopherate
>>>> the wonder in the
>>>>> accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp  bllaappp!
>>>> (*&$%&*#)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:06:48 +0000 (GMT), Lucy
>>>> LeGentilSinge
>>>>> <lucy100millionyearsold at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> do you know sid that the maximum travaille
>> work
>>>>>> between property pob travaille bul travaille
>> po
>>>> fait
>>>>>> bien mais ne change pas des grenier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> hattntione pour la ville de fashisme si elle
>>> est
>>>> la,
>>>>>> ou alors elle est pas la,
>>>>>> mathias ni po travailler, mais si tu
>> travaille
>>> tu
>>>>>> verra beaucoup de gens qui cassent le moral
>> des
>>>> gebs
>>>>>> cul pob dup cop vine carma
>>>>>>
>>>>>> fik
>>>>>> frute marte sister has translated this for
>> her
>>>> what
>>>>>> she wrote, an other idea on your ifea bout
>> you
>>>> might
>>>>>> be called fasghist. you advised reading her
>>>> carefully
>>>>>> and it's a language she is using to tell you
>>>> important
>>>>>> things maybe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  try to warm, try to make a bull to draw, do,
>>>> maybe
>>>>>> then you wil be able to deciopherate the
>> wonder
>>>> in the
>>>>>> accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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