[D-G] What is the difference between a schizo and a bad poet?

Sat Feb 19 17:27:48 PST 2005

Hello.
How you.? what's the time ;where you live?
 --- Liza Kozner <liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> The song is called Turtles but it's about anorexic
> turtles, turtles who stop eating, fasting turtles if
> you want. It is tyrol signing, but we hear turtles
> in
> the background, and the background becomes Deleuze
> reading the Ethics of Spinoza. On the cover we see a
> mug full of butter and a turtle swimming upside down
> in the melted mind of a turtle. It symbolizes the
> adolescence of the mind.
>  --- Liza Kozner <liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> >  Sylvie: I'll keep musing with the turtle idea. 
> >  Richard Pinhas went to see turtles after Deleuze
> > wrote Immanence : Une Vie, and Deleuze died three
> > monthes later he wrote it. Look at his site for
> the
> > comments on Deleuze's death. Do you know that
> > Deleuze
> > defenestrated in November 1995.How can one, and a
> > philsopher, actually kill himself, after giving
> his
> > wife Fanny Deleuze, his children and his friends (
> > Richard Pinhas was one of his friends )such a
> > limpid,
> > enlightened little text of pure philosophical
> > luminous
> > matter? As much as puzzling and horrible an
> > incorporal
> > event his death might become for his personnal
> > readers, it stroke me in various times as
> signifying
> > something to the same readers which has a size as
> > big
> > as was his capacity of human being, of Deleuze the
> > turtle to heal our "turtle" heart. We have may-be
> > all
> > indeed have become "turtles" like Richard and
> Fanny
> > since Deleuze killed himself by destroying his
> > philosophy. Our duty on Earth has changed as it is
> > now
> > time to come back to life thanks to his books: we
> > need
> > to question dialogue and turtles to become his
> true
> > animals (the insects, not the dogs and the cats)
> as
> > Claire did also when he disappeared from her Human
> > Emotions. He died in atroceous sufferings also,
> but
> > unlike Christ did not resurfaced to his disciples
> in
> > human disguise. He took the mask of  those who
> with
> > him became capable to learn how to be readers, or
> > turtles, like his animals, but not "them",
> different
> > and not identical (insects but not dead bugs like
> > fake
> > non-sensical artists). That's why Richard Pinhas
> > insisted deeply onto the possibility Human Beings
> > have
> > to produce signs, to re-inject meanings in the
> > absence
> > of Emotions on seeing turtles in zoological
> gardens
> > instead than going fast, because after he died
> > Turtles
> > went faster tha Achil. He later constructed
> > webdeleuze.fr (about Deleuze's Vincennes courses
> > which
> > were taking place there every Thuesday) and
> Zeldon,
> > Pinhas own rock band, produced a song about slow
> > turtles becoming boulimic of Gilles's ideas.
> > --- Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle at earthlink.net>
> > wrote: 
> > > dialogues and fanny's turtles
> > > 
> > > On Feb 19, 2005, at 4:02 AM, james wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Those of you who would like to express
> > themselves,
> > > using their own
> > > > language, or an invented one, may I ask if you
> > > feel that there are any
> > > > prerequisites to moving as fast as you are in
> > > language/asignifying
> > > > text?  D&G spoke of acceleration.  Indeed, to
> > the
> > > limit.  But they
> > > > spoke of making yourself into a bwo...a
> process,
> > > with procedures, and
> > > > one might even say context.  The risk is
> always
> > > turning such speed
> > > > into a line that veers into the abyss
> (possibly
> > > taking some annoyed
> > > > list members down with you).
> > > >
> > > > They are ways of building up speed, and D&G
> > always
> > > managed to help
> > > > their readers keep up (or at least feel as
> > though
> > > there was something
> > > > to run after).  Perhaps I could humbly ask
> that
> > > you consider that some
> > > > are interested, but if you are in fact trying
> to
> > > express (or dare I
> > > > say discuss!) something, remember a
> > responsibility
> > > to those who might
> > > > take the time to read.  (And no,
> responsibility
> > > does not equal
> > > > fascism.)
> > > >
> > > > Maybe then some of us will be able to
> > deciopherate
> > > the wonder in the
> > > > accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp  bllaappp!
> > > (*&$%&*#)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:06:48 +0000 (GMT), Lucy
> > > LeGentilSinge
> > > > <lucy100millionyearsold at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > >> do you know sid that the maximum travaille
> work
> > > >> between property pob travaille bul travaille
> po
> > > fait
> > > >> bien mais ne change pas des grenier
> > > >>
> > > >> hattntione pour la ville de fashisme si elle
> > est
> > > la,
> > > >> ou alors elle est pas la,
> > > >> mathias ni po travailler, mais si tu
> travaille
> > tu
> > > >> verra beaucoup de gens qui cassent le moral
> des
> > > gebs
> > > >> cul pob dup cop vine carma
> > > >>
> > > >> fik
> > > >> frute marte sister has translated this for
> her
> > > what
> > > >> she wrote, an other idea on your ifea bout
> you
> > > might
> > > >> be called fasghist. you advised reading her
> > > carefully
> > > >> and it's a language she is using to tell you
> > > important
> > > >> things maybe,
> > > >>
> > > >>  try to warm, try to make a bull to draw, do,
> > > maybe
> > > >> then you wil be able to deciopherate the
> wonder
> > > in the
> > > >> accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
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