[D-G] What is the difference between a schizo and a bad poet?

[Liza Kozner]

Hi Gondoo!

Hi. But what are you doing? Where's Lucy?
 --- Gondo -Minnie <gondominnie at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> 
> Hello.
> How you.? what's the time ;where you live?
>  --- Liza Kozner <liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> > The song is called Turtles but it's about anorexic
> > turtles, turtles who stop eating, fasting turtles
> if
> > you want. It is tyrol signing, but we hear turtles
> > in
> > the background, and the background becomes Deleuze
> > reading the Ethics of Spinoza. On the cover we see
> a
> > mug full of butter and a turtle swimming upside
> down
> > in the melted mind of a turtle. It symbolizes the
> > adolescence of the mind.
> >  --- Liza Kozner <liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
> > >  Sylvie: I'll keep musing with the turtle idea. 
> > >  Richard Pinhas went to see turtles after
> Deleuze
> > > wrote Immanence : Une Vie, and Deleuze died
> three
> > > monthes later he wrote it. Look at his site for
> > the
> > > comments on Deleuze's death. Do you know that
> > > Deleuze
> > > defenestrated in November 1995.How can one, and
> a
> > > philsopher, actually kill himself, after giving
> > his
> > > wife Fanny Deleuze, his children and his friends
> (
> > > Richard Pinhas was one of his friends )such a
> > > limpid,
> > > enlightened little text of pure philosophical
> > > luminous
> > > matter? As much as puzzling and horrible an
> > > incorporal
> > > event his death might become for his personnal
> > > readers, it stroke me in various times as
> > signifying
> > > something to the same readers which has a size
> as
> > > big
> > > as was his capacity of human being, of Deleuze
> the
> > > turtle to heal our "turtle" heart. We have
> may-be
> > > all
> > > indeed have become "turtles" like Richard and
> > Fanny
> > > since Deleuze killed himself by destroying his
> > > philosophy. Our duty on Earth has changed as it
> is
> > > now
> > > time to come back to life thanks to his books:
> we
> > > need
> > > to question dialogue and turtles to become his
> > true
> > > animals (the insects, not the dogs and the cats)
> > as
> > > Claire did also when he disappeared from her
> Human
> > > Emotions. He died in atroceous sufferings also,
> > but
> > > unlike Christ did not resurfaced to his
> disciples
> > in
> > > human disguise. He took the mask of  those who
> > with
> > > him became capable to learn how to be readers,
> or
> > > turtles, like his animals, but not "them",
> > different
> > > and not identical (insects but not dead bugs
> like
> > > fake
> > > non-sensical artists). That's why Richard Pinhas
> > > insisted deeply onto the possibility Human
> Beings
> > > have
> > > to produce signs, to re-inject meanings in the
> > > absence
> > > of Emotions on seeing turtles in zoological
> > gardens
> > > instead than going fast, because after he died
> > > Turtles
> > > went faster tha Achil. He later constructed
> > > webdeleuze.fr (about Deleuze's Vincennes courses
> > > which
> > > were taking place there every Thuesday) and
> > Zeldon,
> > > Pinhas own rock band, produced a song about slow
> > > turtles becoming boulimic of Gilles's ideas.
> > > --- Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle at earthlink.net>
> > > wrote: 
> > > > dialogues and fanny's turtles
> > > > 
> > > > On Feb 19, 2005, at 4:02 AM, james wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Those of you who would like to express
> > > themselves,
> > > > using their own
> > > > > language, or an invented one, may I ask if
> you
> > > > feel that there are any
> > > > > prerequisites to moving as fast as you are
> in
> > > > language/asignifying
> > > > > text?  D&G spoke of acceleration.  Indeed,
> to
> > > the
> > > > limit.  But they
> > > > > spoke of making yourself into a bwo...a
> > process,
> > > > with procedures, and
> > > > > one might even say context.  The risk is
> > always
> > > > turning such speed
> > > > > into a line that veers into the abyss
> > (possibly
> > > > taking some annoyed
> > > > > list members down with you).
> > > > >
> > > > > They are ways of building up speed, and D&G
> > > always
> > > > managed to help
> > > > > their readers keep up (or at least feel as
> > > though
> > > > there was something
> > > > > to run after).  Perhaps I could humbly ask
> > that
> > > > you consider that some
> > > > > are interested, but if you are in fact
> trying
> > to
> > > > express (or dare I
> > > > > say discuss!) something, remember a
> > > responsibility
> > > > to those who might
> > > > > take the time to read.  (And no,
> > responsibility
> > > > does not equal
> > > > > fascism.)
> > > > >
> > > > > Maybe then some of us will be able to
> > > deciopherate
> > > > the wonder in the
> > > > > accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp 
> bllaappp!
> > > > (*&$%&*#)
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:06:48 +0000 (GMT),
> Lucy
> > > > LeGentilSinge
> > > > > <lucy100millionyearsold at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > > > >> do you know sid that the maximum travaille
> > work
> > > > >> between property pob travaille bul
> travaille
> > po
> > > > fait
> > > > >> bien mais ne change pas des grenier
> > > > >>
> > > > >> hattntione pour la ville de fashisme si
> elle
> > > est
> > > > la,
> > > > >> ou alors elle est pas la,
> > > > >> mathias ni po travailler, mais si tu
> > travaille
> > > tu
> > > > >> verra beaucoup de gens qui cassent le moral
> > des
> > > > gebs
> > > > >> cul pob dup cop vine carma
> > > > >>
> > > > >> fik
> > > > >> frute marte sister has translated this for
> > her
> > > > what
> > > > >> she wrote, an other idea on your ifea bout
> > you
> > > > might
> > > > >> be called fasghist. you advised reading her
> > > > carefully
> > > > >> and it's a language she is using to tell
> you
> > > > important
> > > > >> things maybe,
> > > > >>
> > > > >>  try to warm, try to make a bull to draw,
> do,
> > > > maybe
> > > > >> then you wil be able to deciopherate the
> > wonder
> > > > in the
> > > > >> accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp
> > > > >>
> 
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