[D-G] What is the difference between a schizo and a bad poet?

[Liza Kozner]

The song is called Turtles but it's about anorexic
turtles, turtles who stop eating, fasting turtles if
you want. It is tyrol signing, but we hear turtles in
the background, and the background becomes Deleuze
reading the Ethics of Spinoza. On the cover we see a
mug full of butter and a turtle swimming upside down
in the melted mind of a turtle. It symbolizes the
adolescence of the mind.
 --- Liza Kozner <liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk> wrote: 
>  Sylvie: I'll keep musing with the turtle idea. 
>  Richard Pinhas went to see turtles after Deleuze
> wrote Immanence : Une Vie, and Deleuze died three
> monthes later he wrote it. Look at his site for the
> comments on Deleuze's death. Do you know that
> Deleuze
> defenestrated in November 1995.How can one, and a
> philsopher, actually kill himself, after giving his
> wife Fanny Deleuze, his children and his friends (
> Richard Pinhas was one of his friends )such a
> limpid,
> enlightened little text of pure philosophical
> luminous
> matter? As much as puzzling and horrible an
> incorporal
> event his death might become for his personnal
> readers, it stroke me in various times as signifying
> something to the same readers which has a size as
> big
> as was his capacity of human being, of Deleuze the
> turtle to heal our "turtle" heart. We have may-be
> all
> indeed have become "turtles" like Richard and Fanny
> since Deleuze killed himself by destroying his
> philosophy. Our duty on Earth has changed as it is
> now
> time to come back to life thanks to his books: we
> need
> to question dialogue and turtles to become his true
> animals (the insects, not the dogs and the cats) as
> Claire did also when he disappeared from her Human
> Emotions. He died in atroceous sufferings also, but
> unlike Christ did not resurfaced to his disciples in
> human disguise. He took the mask of  those who with
> him became capable to learn how to be readers, or
> turtles, like his animals, but not "them", different
> and not identical (insects but not dead bugs like
> fake
> non-sensical artists). That's why Richard Pinhas
> insisted deeply onto the possibility Human Beings
> have
> to produce signs, to re-inject meanings in the
> absence
> of Emotions on seeing turtles in zoological gardens
> instead than going fast, because after he died
> Turtles
> went faster tha Achil. He later constructed
> webdeleuze.fr (about Deleuze's Vincennes courses
> which
> were taking place there every Thuesday) and Zeldon,
> Pinhas own rock band, produced a song about slow
> turtles becoming boulimic of Gilles's ideas.
> --- Sylvie Ruelle <sylvieruelle at earthlink.net>
> wrote: 
> > dialogues and fanny's turtles
> > 
> > On Feb 19, 2005, at 4:02 AM, james wrote:
> > 
> > > Those of you who would like to express
> themselves,
> > using their own
> > > language, or an invented one, may I ask if you
> > feel that there are any
> > > prerequisites to moving as fast as you are in
> > language/asignifying
> > > text?  D&G spoke of acceleration.  Indeed, to
> the
> > limit.  But they
> > > spoke of making yourself into a bwo...a process,
> > with procedures, and
> > > one might even say context.  The risk is always
> > turning such speed
> > > into a line that veers into the abyss (possibly
> > taking some annoyed
> > > list members down with you).
> > >
> > > They are ways of building up speed, and D&G
> always
> > managed to help
> > > their readers keep up (or at least feel as
> though
> > there was something
> > > to run after).  Perhaps I could humbly ask that
> > you consider that some
> > > are interested, but if you are in fact trying to
> > express (or dare I
> > > say discuss!) something, remember a
> responsibility
> > to those who might
> > > take the time to read.  (And no, responsibility
> > does not equal
> > > fascism.)
> > >
> > > Maybe then some of us will be able to
> deciopherate
> > the wonder in the
> > > accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp  bllaappp!
> > (*&$%&*#)
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 03:06:48 +0000 (GMT), Lucy
> > LeGentilSinge
> > > <lucy100millionyearsold at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > >> do you know sid that the maximum travaille work
> > >> between property pob travaille bul travaille po
> > fait
> > >> bien mais ne change pas des grenier
> > >>
> > >> hattntione pour la ville de fashisme si elle
> est
> > la,
> > >> ou alors elle est pas la,
> > >> mathias ni po travailler, mais si tu travaille
> tu
> > >> verra beaucoup de gens qui cassent le moral des
> > gebs
> > >> cul pob dup cop vine carma
> > >>
> > >> fik
> > >> frute marte sister has translated this for her
> > what
> > >> she wrote, an other idea on your ifea bout you
> > might
> > >> be called fasghist. you advised reading her
> > carefully
> > >> and it's a language she is using to tell you
> > important
> > >> things maybe,
> > >>
> > >>  try to warm, try to make a bull to draw, do,
> > maybe
> > >> then you wil be able to deciopherate the wonder
> > in the
> > >> accent of the pescpescpece  dcprdcp
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
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