[D-G] urban questions of sculptures and landscape outside politics
John Young
jya at pipeline.com
Sat Jun 20 07:44:32 PDT 2020
"1968" has scleroticized 1968, stultified
remembrance of the year's diverse sand grains
into an unpassable kidney stone, like "1492" and
"1945" and "Holocaust" oyster-pearl genocide.
At 08:03 AM 6/20/2020, you wrote:
>Thank You for your answer which brings us about
>how you live the new red sculptures. I do not
>expect Society and even collectivities such as
>Museums and Commissions to set their influence
>upon the Art as executed by artists, yet this is
>precisely what happens since the neolithic dawn
>of art to escape from this situation, there was
>the invention wherein comes the sense of an
>"avant-garde" and of "manifes_toes" which
>existed mainly at the end of the 19th century
>and in early 20th century. until stopped
>"oulipo" and "fluxus" then it all stopped, there
>was May68 (with the exception of some fields in
>music somewhat, strange attractors fuzzy clouds
>like LSD Hippie, New Wave, Jazz-Punk etc) May-be
>the artists have at this point lost all sense of
>independence from others. May-Be that the
>Vision, in art, has been absorbed so much within
>the Audience, within the Public. because there
>ain't no more aesthetical subjectivity like
>there was before; and the POP message has taken
>over everything in Art since 1968, and the
>isolated artist feels the Shame of her own
>aesthetical independency! ( i have my self lived
>this tremendously during my artistic studies in
>La Cambre ) and that there remains only a huge
>Crowd and its divided, but Molar, opinions . ( a
>bit like Alexis de Toqueville explained in
>_Democracy in America_ with the equalization of
>Taste and the Vanishing of the aristocratic
>taste, also feared by F.Nietzsche, a prophecy
>now fully realized ) there remains only a Shame
>to "do Monument" of one's independency from this
>crowd and their opinions. my idea was to
>constitute some "manifesto " or rather a simple
>zen "stimulus" set of reflexions for the other
>artists and for those others responsible of the
>life of our aesthetics, in our Towns. ( a
>manifesto which would go against the grain of
>the huge Crowd, against the 1977 Dialogue,
>shrugging your shoulder to the Deleuzian credo
>that "avant-gardes" have always had "paranoids"
>influences by their Popes. How does he dare our
>1968 Parisian thinker talk like Bob Dylan " I
>have Multitudes in me " if its to equalize every
>taste and destroy independency of Thoughts from
>all future artists? Shame on the Deleuze words,
>shame instead on this credo ! ) This is what I
>think as Dewey Dell 5, you might disagree with
>me and you may have the right to do so. best,
>Dewey Dell On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 1:05 PM Dewey
>Dell <dewey.dell5 at gmail.com> wrote: > merci pour
>ta réponse qui mâapprend comment se vivent
>par toi les > sculptures rouges. > > je ne
>mâattends pas à ce que la société et même
>les musées les commissions > influencent sur
>lâart des artistes mais câest pourtant le
>cas de tout temps > > pour y échapper câest
>justement le sens des « avant-gardes » et « >
>manifestes » quâil y avait fin xix ème et
>début xxème jusquâa oulipo et > fluxus puis
>ça sâest arrêté, après mai 68, sauf en
>musique plus ou > moins..peut-être que les
>artistes ont a ce point perdu tout sens >
>dâindépendance peut être que la vision de
>lâart est tellement passée Dans > Le Public,
>car il nây a plus de subjectivité esthétique
>comme avant, > puisque le message POP a pris
>tout, et que lâartiste isolé a honte de son >
>indépendance esthétique ( jâai fortement
>vécu ce passage à La Cambre ) et > quâil
>nây a plus quâune foule dâavis et quâon
>a honte de faire monument de > son indépendance
>par rapport à cette foule dâavis. > > mon
>idée était de constituer quelque « stimulus
>» de réflexion pour > dâautres artistes et
>responsables de la vie esthétique de nos
>villes. > > > > >
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