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Johnatan Petterson internet.petterson at gmail.com
Mon Mar 6 16:23:44 PST 2017

 hi again.
(-Chaosmosis )IndianaUnivPress p50-:+--)<<the example of the pentatonic
musical refrain which, with only a few notes, catalyses the Debussyst
constellation of multiple Universes:

-- the Wagnerian Universe surrounding Parsifal, which attaches itself to
the existential Territory constituted by Bayreuth;

-- the Universe of Gregorian chant;

-- that of French music, with the return to favour of Rameau and Couperin;

-- that of Chopin, due to a nationalist transposition (Ravel, for his part,
appropriating Liszt);

-- the Javanese music Debussy discovered at the Universal Exposition of
-- the world of Manet and Mallarmé, which is associated with Debussy's stay
at the Villa Médicis.


in relation to my lastpost on drawing's procedurality, i was just reminded
towards this Chaosmosis passage.
(Guattari mentioned how ATM cash machines a-signifying point signs may
trigger themselves (one day?) into ontic Universes.
&he gives the Debussys Universe as an example of that)-

I am wondering how the Drawing Procedural post I had sent yesterday and
this passage in Chaosmosis could soon echo-stick one into the other,

(my) random notes: -- "Parsifal Universe" refers in Guattari's mind, to a
notion of Territory & Earth (before-the-root)
          -- "Gregorian" may refer either to history of musicology (a root)
          -- "..Rameau-Couperin.." contemporaneous layer into a musical
          -- "Chopin" some geo-politic (flowers & thorns) in music
          --  "Javanese" might b linked 2 a BWO.
          -- music relation w other arts.

so, (Debussyst)"constellation" is the collection of the latter[s] as
(multiple)  (or    ontic  )     "Universes".

honestly do You in your opinion think that Guattari is being procedural in
that (de)-composition of Debussy?
 he says it will catalyse "with only a few notes", how far is that true?
could we wonder to be allowed to ask for the reproducibility of the
truth embedded in this statement,
at each play of a few notes of pentatonic Debussy??
what is the "ontic" of music, do they some how relate to the VanGogh's/DG


2017-03-06 19:09 GMT+01:00 Johnatan Petterson <internet.petterson at gmail.com>

> Hi Listers.
> Quick notes from the internut class underground.
> The Original, VS the Stamp.
> Child: when draws: operates, Stamp Procedural.
> a guy is mind-applied, pre-de-composed in two hands, two arms, two legs,
> two feetts , a trunk, a head, and two ears nostrils and eyes.
> The Adult BWO, adds up freeflow into Draw: Light-Variation, driven by in
> push&pull line with dancing feed-backs, Self-Consciousness Upper-Head Feels
> the Cracks in the Procedural Module (hot and immediate feedback which draws
> the Zen Line)
> VS Child : The Stamp: the words, the dashes, the virgules said by DG " to
> fill the canvas as so many "singularities ???",
> -indiosynchratic: limited due to small number in the philo-sophistic
> Originals' systems., of Philo-History.
> The Original: how she strolls along between easels, in the Nude Model
> Class,
> Each students Originality in'style, notices she, is  decidedly doing
> Communion, after 18year old: the Teenager steals her Freedom from the Adult
> World.
> (Not found much Help in DG WIP? advises: Have to read "George Didi
> Huberman's "La Peinture Incarnée", with "Le Chef D'Œuvre Inconnu" de Balzac
> Honoré", )
> (Not found much Color-Light in Paul Klee's various writings.)
> So, are the Easels, Paradigmatic? Is Bonnard, and Degas and Matisse,,
> Drawing Paradigms?
> -> A Re-Instauration of Procedural Drawing?
> Or can the Teen-Ager DG analysis of VanGogh's dashes as concepts help us
> to escape from Adult World?
> Une Bonne Poignée de Main,
> J.P.
> 2017-03-05 17:50 GMT+01:00 Mike Lansing <badger2 at mail2world.com>:
>> Yes, we left the typo in the thread title. We're still hwere, in the
>> gooey curare-resin ("Chewy, can you hear me, see me?!") and have already
>> done parallel graphics for some language lines (Russian example),
>> because the peripheral eye can pick up the parallel language as their
>> (saccade) moves along. It is, of course, a mimesis of poor Chinese
>> people who used to use glow-worms. If there were a drawing capability,
>> one could sketch out, for example, some of D&G's graphics in their own
>> hand, which exercise indeed goes into the machinic unconscious. We see
>> forms emerging, Guattari's schizoanalysis applied to Marguerite Porete.
>> If we could draw what we see in our heads, it would be something like
>> Spinoza passing by Porete's body fastened to the burning scaffold, in
>> comparison to G's symbol for decidability. Should Spinoza continue on
>> and not let anyone see he is interested or seduced by such an audacious
>> scene?
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