[D-G] On Schizophrenia

Julia Barclay julia.barclay at googlemail.com
Wed Jan 12 15:37:12 PST 2011

Your friend's experience as a scientist is interesting.  Do you think there's a relationship with so-called schizophrenia and shamanism?  I ask because I have a friend who has not been diagnosed as schizophrenic but does work with 'guides' in her work as a modern-day shaman.  Just wondering as it seems possible, yes?
So much of how we see all this stuff is socially constructed and I fear we are way too in thrall with the medical model these days.

Always love to hear your comments super dragon.

On 12 Jan 2011, at 18:14, Super Dragon wrote:

> The statistical case is that a person with a diagnosis of schizophrenia ( whatever that actually means today as the DSM keeps shifting) is more likely to be a victim of violence or hurt themselves than be the perpetrator. It is also the case that one only usually hears about people with a diagnosis of schizophrenia when they are involved in violence against others thus perpetuating the hyperbole.  I have never seen a report saying person with diagnosis of schizophrenia did anything positive. Also not all delusions are persecutory or about harm. They have been known to give helpful advice. One of my colleagues regularly acts on her voices and she's now a high flying research scientist. 
> Sloughing one's skin.-The snake that cannot slough its skin perishes. Likewise spirits which are prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be spirits (Nietzsche: Daybreak:V:573)   
> --- l.ogrady at gmail.com wrote:
> From: Louie <l.ogrady at gmail.com>
> To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> Subject: Re: [D-G] On Schizophrenia
> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2010 10:41:36 +0000
> journal abstract:
> 'Some people hear voices that are the products only of processes in
> their brains. These hallucinations can lead to persistent delusions
> that someone is plotting against them or urging them to harm others.
> When a person acts on those delusions, headline-grabbing tragedy can
> ensue, usually involving someone close to the protagonist.'
> ...I think I'll pass.
> On 07/12/2010, charles hubaker <solntsepyati at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Nature (11 Nov 2010) devotes a large portion of the issue to the subject of
>> schizophrenia.

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