[D-G] Harald's posts

henrybrs at ix.netcom.com henrybrs at ix.netcom.com
Sat Apr 30 16:38:49 PDT 2011


bad choice of words on my part.   in my clumsy way I was simply trying to 
suggest that when someone adopts a specific set of terms from one discipline 
and applies them in another it might not hurt to understand how they worked 
in their original context (not say that philosophers never take words with 
established meanings and supply them with brand new ones).  I imagine 
malgosia knows far more about it than I do, having shepherded this list 
along all these many years, yet did not rule out the possibility in the 
first reply to your post.  here ends my non-contribution.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Cain, Prof. Jeffrey P.
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 1:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [D-G] Harald's posts

Henry, just to be clear, I wasn't claiming to be "right" about 
anything--just wondering out loud whether mathematical terms are sometimes, 
to the detriment of rigorous discourse--used metaphorically.  But possibly 
you meant something quite different.  As I'm discovering rather late in 
life, I like math anyway, DeLanda or no DeLanda:)

Best,

Jeff


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from the introduction to intensive science and virtual philosophy by manuel
delanda:
"I draw on the same mathematical resources as Deleuze (differential
geometry, group theory) but, unlike him, I do not assume the reader is
already familiar with these fields.  Deleuze's grasp of the technical
details involved is, I hope to show completely adequate (by analytical
philosophy standards), but his discussion of technical details is so
compressed, and assumes so much on the part of the reader, that it is bound
to be misinterpreted."
I'm not saying whose right and who's wrong, but if I were you I'd keep
auditing that math class.

-----Original Message-----
From: Cain, Prof. Jeffrey P.
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 9:37 AM
To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] Harald's posts

Needess to say, I've been paying close attention to the discussion as it
goes forward and shall continue to do so.  One thing that slightly concerns
me is the possibility that in some contexts mathematical terms can be used
as metaphors rather than as words with a solid denotative sense.  This, it
seems to me, would not be all that productive, although I'm the least
skilled in the bunch at the moment. I hasten to add that I'm not charging
anyone with doing that, just pointing out that it's a potential pitfall.
Actually, I sometimes think Lacan is doing it--his use of the "asymptote" is
an example, perhaps not a good one--and definitely don't want to think D&G
are.

Just a thought.

Jeff



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[deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org] on behalf of malgosia askanas
[ma at panix.com]
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 11:41 AM
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Subject: [D-G] Harald's posts

Dear All,

Harald claims that his computer sabotages his writing and prevents him from
making its surface less opaque.   If any of you find yourself joyously
deciphering his posts, it would be greatly appreciated if you could repost a
less opaque version of them.

-m
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