[D-G] Hjelmslevian analysis
ma at panix.com
Wed Nov 17 10:27:43 PST 2010
I have some questions about your proposed analysis:
- Do the content-substance and content-form depend on the recipient?
For example, if you say to me "No prime number is bifactional", and
you know what "bifactional" means but I don't, are the
content-substance and content-form of that sentence different for you
and for me?
- Let's take instead the sentence "The population of no town east of
the river Bahaka is a prime number". It would be a bit hard to
argue, it seems to me, that the content-form of that sentence is like
a mental photo - what would it be a photo of? Or does "photo", in
this case, mean some kind of a _diagram_, representing a concrete but
complex relationship between a (possibly non-existent) river, the
direction "east", towns, populations, counting, numbers, primeness,
- If we were actually sitting in a room in which there was a cat and
a rug, and I said "The cat is on the rug", would the presence of a
(single) cat and a (single) rug be reflected in the content-form of
my enunciation? In other words, is the connection between
enunciations and actual states of affairs part of semiotic analysis?
And if so, how does it enter the content-form?
With many thanks,
At 10:44 AM -0500 11/17/10, Harald Wenk wrote:
>(I got some trouble with the computer, therefore some type print
>errors are (unavoidable) there)
>Unfortunaltely my both references, which I strongly apppreciate
>"Sproget" (language) (Sprache in german) by Hjemslev
>and "La stratification de language" are not at hand.
>I spite of that, risking error, I would describe thsi way.
>The form of the content is the image, like a photo, of a cat on the rug.
>The substance of that image, the substance of the content, ist the
>attribute thinking (from Spinoza),
>the "understanding" namely:
>A recognition with the aid of memory,
>of identifiying the obejcts (cat, rug) negelctging the rest of the
>secne of that photolike picture. This picture maybe also be
>contsructerd in a dream way by putting togetehr pictres of a cat and
>Maybe the "recognition" is declared as "form" of the content.
>The form of the expterssion is a describing proposition with
>subject substauive cat, predicat konjugated verb "is" with
>prepsotion object substsbtive "rug".
>The form of the substancde is thus composed of the the voice, the
>phonems connected to the
>signs of the letter, which are images and to be identfied or to be
>The substance, signs of the letter are in the attribute "extension"
>or real material.
>The content maybe more difficult, if the sense, the content, is
>like in the famous
>"Cat on a Hot Tin Roof" by Tennessee Williams
>I hope, this is what you asked.
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