[Deleuze-Guattari] waffling, again...

[Wouter Kusters]

Hi james, ruth and other list members,

That is interesting work you do there at the NHS, Ruth. In a way you could
say that you apply Deleuze's work in your occupational business. So far I
have not yet come, since I wonder, how, working there - would you see a
difference between a patient you treat, an actual human being - and a Body
without Organs?

I think it is very hard to conclude to such a piece-meal difference, and I
get the impression that there is something more to that. When we look, for
example at the work of Dr.Schreber and we relate that to that which is done
by Deleuze & Guattari themselves, I miss some kind of fourth component, i
would like to know more about that, reading Deleuze and Guattari. For those
who read, besides English and German, Dutch I would recommend my personal
web page on philosophy, on which some articles can be found on these
affairs: http://home.wanadoo.nl/wku/Philosophy/filowaan.htm

What I would not like, then, is the bitty sense of humour, the mocking on
you with neologisms, etc. For those I would recommend reading the more
bearable stuff when that would be allowed in-there, and for instance, try to
smuggle in, Thomas Pynchon's work: Gravity's Rainbow, and see how he
elaborates on those days. For NHS workers who separate suffereres from
psychosis from their enivironmet, i would wonder why in-there the more heavy
books reading-them, are frowned upon with some suspicion.

wku, have a nice day

> hi charles, good to hear from you. i take your point about
> recognition. i would find it a source of some humour if we
> suddenly had a rush of 'great minds' identifying themselves as
> such. time committments always an issue. what are you up to these
> days? i'm now an independent training consultant for the NHS
> (national health service)and coordinate Psychosis Revisited- a
> workshop that assimilates the medical model of 'illness' as only
> one leg on the stool of stability-that is there is the pills only
> work for one third of people who experience psychosis. So lots of
> emphasis on different kinds of intervention and listening to
> psychotic expereinces as sensible texts that have yet to be
> understood ( minor languages in other words).  the field is way
> too conservative to even mention D and G but the training is
> pretty saturated with bits and pieces masqerading under more
> conventional headings. there's a lot of service users involved in
> delivery so having great fun getting people to put down their
> risk assessments and actually collaborate with people
> expereincing psychosis. i think guattari would have liked it-or i
> hope he would have as there's a lot of multi-media art involved
> and we've just published our first neologism for reflecting on
> internal states experienced outside the body. D and G gone
> anonymous in other words. i hope they would have appreciated the humour.
>
> take care ruth.c
> Ruth.C