[Deleuze-Guattari] an opened Ghestalt

[hwenk]

Hello dear members of this list,

To do some legendary classical from Vedanta:
"To see the rope as the snake in the dark night!"
This is soem kind of phantasm.
You have fear, because you see a snake,
which is tgher only in yout imagination.
But the fear you feel is real!!!!
That is "the psychic reality" of an phatasm."

The dark is also important, for in the dark
you have not ebnough light,
perception, information, to
distinguish between a snake or a rope.
It is to dark to tell them.
"Night where every cow is black!".

So you put your uncertain perception of something
very thin compared to its lenght,
is "copmpleted" to the "Gestalt",
the picture, the genus, the notion,
the already knoen from memory: "a snake".
More sophisticare dand wise: "A rope".
Both are well known to you, they are different,
and the distinction is made by your completing the data
with the rest of proerties of a snake or rope.

So, if someone unknown says to : "I will drive with my car to LOndon",
you tend probale to imagine what kind og car it is. A big one,a small one,
a old one, a fast one????
Ig the one waetrs very elegant cloth you
may conclude to an elgant car.

Now, in case of fear, completing data is
very important,
Almost instictivly you may ask yourself.
"And if the rope is  a snake?".
The best would be, to step ooud on the ground
#more than a few meters away.
If it is a snake, it will move, flee.
So, your completing data is a reason for
a rwal action, the psychic rerality turns into
some real movement of a body.
The neighbuor may beome angry and
shout. "What a noise in the night!!"........
So thongs escalate, the pahansmof the snalke
chanfges your social relationship.
"You have snake in your flat???"

"No, it is only a rope!"
(silent to oneself: Though I am not so sure)
"I am also afraid of snakes!"


Maybe as artist

greetings Harald Wenk




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07/9/2, hwenk <hwenk at web.de>:20
These are instead established as a kind of
phantasms, according to Spinozas recognized  tendency of the mind to
complete data
or to close open "Gestalts".
how to close open Gestalt: how the very long human practice to close open
"Gestalt" equals a what, a phantasm, an enthymeme by Aristotles
and what would we flaunt instead, what else than enthythemic phantasmatic
language?, is there further down the road a basic logical reason to be
discovered and rediscovered for us? is language based on a logic upon a
historical logic along which to build a community of first stage
Civilization (Michiu Kaku) ?
logic an abstraction of the mathematics and thus surges right into logic the
language in such a way. at least is it to become scientific despite of the
phantasm that what we want in it? i am not answering my question, my word
is divagative and even stupid, you should not pay attention to it normally
if you would not be on a "democratic" list. i have no context personally but
a question which hinders and to which heeds must not be. i guess.

sincerely

Xavier Buades
artist
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