[Deleuze-Guattari] Deleuze-Guattari Digest, Vol 34, Issue 1

hwenk hwenk at web.de
Sat Aug 4 01:02:03 PDT 2007


Hello Mr Peyne (if you are),

as you have never written in this list before,
you probably write of  another list where  or you
communicate.
Or ?

Harald Wenk




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why is this mailing list the near exclusive reserve of new age fuckwits?

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>    1. The Wound (Deleuze) (fin5tr at leeds.ac.uk)
>    2. Re: The Wound (Deleuze) (hwenk)
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> Date: Fri,  3 Aug 2007 16:45:29 +0100
> From: fin5tr at leeds.ac.uk
> Subject: [Deleuze-Guattari] The Wound (Deleuze)
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> In 'Immanence: A Life' Deleuze refers to Bousquet's wound and cites his
> work
> 'Les Capitales'. Can anyone tell me if this is available in English,
> please? If
> not, does anyone know which translated works of Bousquet refer directly,
> and in
> detail, to the wound.
>
> Also, does anyone know where Deleuze expands on this idea of the wound, if
> he
> does at all. Or if anyone else (say, poststructuralist) does.
>
> Thanks in anticipation, Tina (Cultural Studies BA student)
>
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> Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2007 22:19:35 +0200
> From: "hwenk" <hwenk at web.de>
> Subject: Re: [Deleuze-Guattari] The Wound (Deleuze)
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> Hello Tina,
>
> there is a new French edition from 1996,
> but I didn't found any translation (here in Germany) - like you, probably.
> The text is the last of Deleuze being published,
> and it is indeed very abstract.
>
> I don't know what you are doing,
> but "the wound" is a reference in a the last footnote where
> the connection between virtuality and
> happenings(?) has been elaborated and concretised.
>
> In a first order approximation
> one could see virtualities as
> dream/perception/thinking(all together, mixed, and differentiating while
> "living") - with emotion from the
> conscious side. But what is happening on the object side?
> A wound is subjective and objective (from medicine).
> The wound has also some objective subjective reality,
> to speak so, as for some  to have a wound is
> in certain limits the same, or recognizable - also understandable,
> also to have a wound is do much subjective that you are
> brought back sometimes to the
> pure life, which is mentioned as example,
> even if a bad guy is going to die,
> one tries to help.
>
> But, as I pointed out,
> I don't what you want.
> Even dreaming of a wound has its objective "effects"
> or thinking of a wound - even if you never get one.
> I am not trying to speak ex cathedra as
> canonical interpretation. Its my own in responding you after reading the
> text.
>
> But texts so abstract as this one from Deleuze are best
> understood to connect it
> to from experience or
> possible experience - what is also the theme of
> the text itself.
>
> So, maybe the question: Working on Deleuze without speaking French?
> Without any loss?
> This is for sure  possible on a B.A. level.
> So, to summarize - I am not aware of a translation of
> Bousquet and I  think to read
> another book of him is not so
> helpful in understand the text of Deleuze.
> Maybe you look in Difference and repetition
> or also in Duns Scot himself - keeping the wound in mind.
> But the text of Sartre is also very important for Deleuze,
> he quotes it in central passages in "what is philosophy".
>
>
> But, I don't what you know or try to do.
>
>
> Greetings Harald Wenk
>
>
>
>
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> Sent: Freitag, 3. August 2007 17:45
> To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> Subject: [Deleuze-Guattari] The Wound (Deleuze)
>
>
> In 'Immanence: A Life' Deleuze refers to Bousquet's wound and cites his
> work
> 'Les Capitales'. Can anyone tell me if this is available in English,
> please?
> If
> not, does anyone know which translated works of Bousquet refer directly,
> and
> in
> detail, to the wound.
>
> Also, does anyone know where Deleuze expands on this idea of the wound, if
> he
> does at all. Or if anyone else (say, poststructuralist) does.
>
> Thanks in anticipation, Tina (Cultural Studies BA student)
>
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