[D-G] theater performance practitioners?

Julia Barclay julia at flyingoutofsequence.org
Thu Oct 13 03:02:17 PDT 2005 

Have not answered yet because all the questions are big and I have been 
incredibly busy and not able to give them time...be patient and I will try. 
thanks for caring about it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Liza Kozner" <liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk>
To: <deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [D-G] theater performance practitioners?


> Are you thinking about a possible answer?
> Or would you have already stopped doing so...
> I am unsure.
>
> I am asking what is what you do: performance.. ?
>
> Can you intuitively describe the process that the performer experiences, 
> the kind of work this is consisting into?
>
> What for I ask, because i think I have given some elements of my 
> understanding of relating DG with Performing for Cinema. There must be 
> correlation. If there no correlation, let's do them, like DNA, it must be 
> constructed.. What branch can we build, what bridge between the two 
> disciplines?
>
> If you give some elements, I can receive something. Thence if I receive 
> something, I can make my mind and start working. If this kind of list is 
> only for communication, that is, only for exchange of vague ideas, there 
> is no sense in reading Guattari talk on the panick which 
> telecommunication, computer assistance can create, and so if your a 
> luddist maybe you can possibly understand that point, and help create a 
> better world in the tissue of the present one, just in accepting to let 
> down the fear of relating with "no clothes" on what you do. I am 
> interested, and performance can bring, can give something to Cinema and 
> the reverse. It's just a matter of knowing more of what we're up to.
>
> Please so don't. keep, your ideas in PhD format, bring them here so 
> something happen, and we can behave as human beings not as syndromes of 
> the internet.
>
> Liza
>
> Julia Barclay <julia at flyingoutofsequence.org> wrote:
> don't want to weigh in on the controversy here, except to say I am an
> artist, but one who is also writing a PhD about my work, so I live in the
> gap between the two worlds you have defined. My hope is to stand in the
> middle of the gap between the two cliffs of art and theory and clap, 
> thereby
> creating a resonant sound. In the rhizome chapter of D&G they talk about
> standing in the middle, which I like, a lot. Is this possible? Don't have
> a clue yet, though have moments of seeming-clarity....whether I'm
> interesting or not is certainly not for me to say. I have a theater/re
> company called Apocryphal Theatre. I run a once-a-week exploratory lab
> looking into the nature of performance...reading D&G back in the early 
> 90's
> (and outside of academia) gave me some interesting frameworks for these
> explorations...
> I also read a lot of Burroughs/Gysin stuff, The Third Mind, for example,
> which was quite influential. Also I write stage texts, which also have
> improvisational openings. I love artists such as Deborah Hay, John Cage,
> Robert Rauschenberg and even 'classical' playwrights like Beckett and
> Kane...I also love hearing the rhythm of shoes at Liverpool Street station
> in London during rush hour and at 59th Street and 3rd Ave in NYC...the 
> life
> and art divide I think is over-rated...I love Deborah Hay (the
> dancer/choreographer)'s idea of 'playing awake.' It does take discipline
> though, and that's where the art comes in, I think...
> Some of my writing is published, if that matters, and as for Stelarc I met
> him recently at a conference. He seems like quite a nice man but the
> cyborg/virtual thing leaves me cold. I'm a Luddite at heart and look for
> the nomadic/ viral/ rhizomatic in the moment, in the
> inter-cellular-molecular energies between performers and their bodies and
> words and minds etc...also between the clashes and coinciding moments
> between theater/music/dance etc.
> Hope this helps...
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Liza Kozner"
>
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 11:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [D-G] theater performance practitioners?
>
>
>> Ah... yes! of course... this is Performance and Classical Avant-Guarde,
>> picked up hypo critically by the intellos in the trail of DG. I think
>> Performance is about anybody's reach, daily, day to day, not about the
>> Ghetto of Avant-Guarde artists such as this type of "Performance". But
>> alas I might be not trendy, especially for Deleuze Readers .
>>
>> Is there anybody in Brussels going to the Argos Film Festival? or anybody
>> in the World going to Deleuze Avant-Guardist Events and who are wondering
>> if it's the "thing", and if this is all really interesting.? Because
>> Massumi for example, I am not sure about this kind of event. (I saw him
>> perform live and it was not a good one) I think it's enough with Deleuze,
>> there's no need to have more, and to feel concerned by Deleuze more than
>> necessary than what we can reach already. There's no need of existence 
>> for
>> such a list. Well at the moment. I am always hoping something could 
>> happen
>> and the Film Fanatics would bump the Intellos out for good. Always little
>> sentences like yours saying nothing actually. I hope Julia is an
>> interesting person and an artist. Not a degenerate cyborg self conscious
>> en plus. En plus to be a cyborg you have to be self conscious, and
>> communicative.
>> Luke Feast wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Brian Massumi has an essay on an Australian performance artist Stelarc, 
>> in
>> his book Parables for the Virtual, might be worth a look at.
>>
>> Massumi, Brian. *Parables for the virtual: movement, affect, sensation*,
>> Durham, NC, Duke University Press, 2002 pp. 89-132
>>
>> also www.stelarc.va.com.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10/12/05, Julia Barclay wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi there,
>>> I joined this recently and am working on a practice-based PhD in the UK
>>> (though I from NYC) relating my own theater/re practice to D&G,
>>> especially
>>> desiring machines and rhizomatics...though this may shift some...
>>> So my question to the list is: is anyone else on this list that creates
>>> live
>>> performances, anywhere in the world, of any kind that has also been
>>> influenced by D&G or know of anyone else who has, who would be willing 
>>> to
>>> discuss this with me?
>>> Thanks,
>>> Julia
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Julia Barclay"
>>> To:
>>> Sent: Saturday, October 08, 2005 3:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [D-G] Hello everyone
>>>
>>>
>>> > Brian Massumi wrote an intro in the Brit edition.
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: "Gondo -Minnie"
>>> > To:
>>> > Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:55 AM
>>> > Subject: RE: [D-G] Hello everyone
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> hello harald, did you read an intro who wrote it?i
>>> >> found none in my own edition is it good what is it
>>> >> about?cheers
>>> >> ---
>>> >> deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces at lists.driftline.org
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>> Hello,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> what about reading the introduction of ATP?
>>> >>>
>>> >>> greetings Harald Wenk
>>> >>>
>>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>>> >>> From:
>>> >> deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces at lists.driftline.org
>>> >>>
>>> >> [mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces at lists.driftline.org]On
>>> >>> Behalf Of brendan mccall
>>> >>> Sent: Montag, 3. Oktober 2005 09:27
>>> >>> To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
>>> >>> Subject: [D-G] Hello everyone!
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi, I just joined the listserv and wanted to
>>> >> introduce myself.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> My name is Brendan McCall, and I am finishing up my
>>> >> undergraduate work at
>>> >>> Penn
>>> >>> State. I wanted to join this listserv so I can get
>>> >> a better understanding
>>> >>> of
>>> >>> Deleuze and Guattari (naturally, I suppose : ).
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Anyway, I have a minimal understanding of D/G and I
>>> >> am now interested in
>>> >>> reading
>>> >>> Haraway's Cyborg Manifesto in light of the excerpts
>>> >> I've seen from A
>>> >>> Thousand
>>> >>> Plateaus. I don't really know where I am going with
>>> >> that, but I keep coming
>>> >>> back to similarities between D/G's organic model
>>> >> (with rhizomes or whatever)
>>> >>> to
>>> >>> Haraway's digital model of connections through
>>> >> cybernetic networks. In the
>>> >>> end, I think both a ripe with potential to my own
>>> >> evolving political PoV.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> I'm wondering if anyone here sees something similar
>>> >> or if I am talking about
>>> >>> something that's painfully obvious to all of you.
>>> >> If anyone is interested,
>>> >>> I
>>> >>> would like to talk a little about that as I read
>>> >> through A Thousand
>>> >>> Plateaus,
>>> >>> which I should probably pick up one of these days...
>>> >> I only have stuff
>>> >>> that's
>>> >>> anthologized.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> One more thing, I've been wondering if the record
>>> >> label Mille Plateau took
>>> >>> the
>>> >>> name from D/G or if its coincidental... Is there a
>>> >> story behind that or
>>> >>> something?
>>> >>> Glad to be aboard,
>>> >>> Brendan
>>> >>>
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>>
>>
>> --
>> Luke Feast
>> MDes candidate
>> School of Design
>> Victoria University of Wellington
>> PO Box 600, Wellington
>> New Zealand
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