[D-G] Politics of desire and the 21st century

Liza Kozner liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk
Wed May 4 13:41:15 PDT 2005

Hi Charles
BYTWay do you know if it is Badiou who is exotic. Ney
how to phrase this? Libé Liberation told yesterday or
before, this week, no! it's LeMonde, three days ago,
had an article on Judith Butler. In this artcile, they
noted while passing in review Butler's queerr theory, 
that Foucault, Kristeva, others where part of the
French Studies in this AmericaContinent. And they
characterised their doubts about it noting "probably"
French Studies being called such but being 1) being
Exotic Studies, in America, drawn by an "exotic"
interest (may-be Edward Said Orientalist ideas could
be interesting?) 2) a twist: because actually French
Studies belong to general American Field of Studies.
Certain Writers have a feeling for differentiating
French Studies, French Politics, from American
Politics. Is this all do you think grouping,
agitation, or worth interest also for objective
studies even though Guattari stressed subjectivity? a
s a platform the Unconscious Intelligencia in us?. Is
this really existing, French Studies. Would you say
yourself your study for example of DG is part of
French Studies? Would you say that with a twist or
not? What? etc? What's the arrangement, the
articulation? Do you think Universityes apparatus are
different in France and America? (btw?) Or Cajun Dance
is part of your personal becoming ?  ? This question
is not clearely enough non-thought and you would
prefer not to answer i d be not suprised but who
knows. so i ask.bye
Liza K.
--- "Charles J. Stivale" <ad4928 at wayne.edu> wrote:
> At 08:30 AM 5/4/2005 -0800, you wrote:
> >So, I was reading an article by Badiou that was
> published in Le Monde on 
> >the french ban on the hijab (islamic headscarf). I
> was struck by the 
> >moments of strange conservativism in his tone, but
> then he moved into the 
> >critique of sexuality as it exists now. And so I
> wondered (to pick up a 
> >thread from an earlier discussion here) if the
> Deleuzian insistance on a 
> >politics of desire was not a relic of the late
> 60's. Have we not already 
> >acheived this proliferation of sexual desires and
> sexual identities and 
> >found that they interfere very little in the
> movement of Capital. Perhaps 
> >I am a little turned around here, been reading too
> many men in 
> >uncomfortable pants (i.e. Zizek, Lacan, etc.) but
> isn't desire a dead end, 
> >or better yet a dead road, for politics.
> >
> >Just want the discussion and then we can return to
> the "rhizomatic poetry 
> >the sets my soul upon a line of flight to great
> Georgejacksonutopia of 
> >escapes and failed escapes and lost lusts"
> Dear Sid,
> Great idea/line for discussion -- could you provide
> the ref to the 
> Badiou/Le Monde piece and/or URL where I can
> download it? The reason I ask 
> is that, having just taught a segment (to undergrads
> no less!) on the veil 
> law, I hesitate to make any comments that swerve
> toward theory without 
> having read how the author (in this case Badiou)
> expresses him/herself -- 
> the various position on this issue get so nuanced.
> FYI, I have had my students read the rather amazing
> Jane Kramer essay on 
> this issue from The New Yorker Nov 22, 2004, "Taking
> the Veil".
> thanks,
> CJ Stivale
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