[D-G] D&G reading group

Dr. Harald Wenk hwenk at web.de
Wed Jun 1 05:57:40 PDT 2005


maybe a littlree buit old fashioned, but what about thinking well before  
Normally things used not to be sucg simple that noramlity suffices.

greetings Harald Wenk

Am Tue, 31 May 2005 18:29:11 -0600 schrieb Neil Todd  
<skinnerboxing at hotmail.com>:

>> From: Lucy LeGentilSinge <lucy100millionyearsold at yahoo.co.uk>
>> Reply-To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org at lists.driftline.org
>> To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org at lists.driftline.org
>> Subject: Re: [D-G] D&G reading group
>> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 16:45:41 +0100 (BST)
>> I think a reading like the one you talk about and
>> which never existed probably in real is like a debate
>> on TV, and it's not
>> possible to enjoy it and aswell enjoy litterature such
>> as is actually DG. If you enjoy debates about DG and
>> aswell enjoy DG, you should know by now about
>> something is stuck wrong deep with you. if you feel
>> enough conscious to be open and ask if you were not
>> the one wrong, Correct it this way:  Deleuze himself
>> would have said influence of Modern Contemporary art
>> on Thinking, or theory practice, is coming from
>> outside or away than their own Deleuzian thought. Find
>> out what to connect with. If we like Deleuze the
>> option is between finding inspiration from or not from
>> DG, but not in discussing DG's tools by mass-media
>> tools like readings, poetic or accademic/individualist
>> groups. NO to the Passivity of Deleuzian Readers and
>> indifferent, such as "intellectuals", or
>> deterritorialists. What's positive nowadays are the
>> molecularist social movements, the analysis of
>> productive key actors why those for example in need of
>> DG would like to talk about and knot, anchor around
>> things and do intereactive readings and enjoy such
>> readings hoping by then and by reputation, DG should
>> become interesting for them, all this is nonsense and
>> stems from your self's passivity, and absence of
>> democratic will around you. So sad! Actually sad that
>> to visualise it, then should you be more happy and
>> less subjectivised by other ppl's ideas. So forget
>> about readings, either on Internet : if we gather here
>> it's got nothing to do with DG in whatever way that is
>> interesting for DG and us, their followers will agree
>> blindly. The Neo-Cons will agree to this. So realize
>> who you are and make a change. Why?
>> More aside this, about specifically the net-Lists on
>> DG.
>> What could be interesting is to knot reading of DG
>> around nothing. Yeas you read well. We would gain more
>> by non Deleuzian, new movements of thoughts then
>> rehearsing for n-th time DG here or other parts.
>> Deleuze world-texts is void and haolds no deep
>> interest for anybody.  This list is dead since 2003
>> for example. Since then, actually since the US has led
>> the invasion in Irak it seems the intellectual world
>> is depressed by self-respect of your particular brain
>> power and moved towards a depressive politics. I think
>> it's interesting if you analyse it on an other
>> "strata", and say according to this line: The absence
>> of activity around DG, It's the future death of the
>> last man, it's syndrome quickly disappearing from
>> consciousness. But while we discuss it, it's not DG
>> who killed him. Aside there's been "poetic reading", a
>> word which expresses only the ressenting attitude of
>> the hidden neo-conservative attitude of  intellectuals
>> populating pseudo avant-guardist schizo discourse
>> (those like DG are Avant-Guardist) and lack of trust
>> in the social molecule movements in the aferomentioned
>> depressing countries like Global Politic assume, World
>> Order, and spools created around absence of democratic
>> standards of attention by those wanting to live the
>> "life" of a brain, ie. those figuring as the enemies
>> of contemporary intellectuals . Let's get not
>> depressed with you and the likes, let the
>> self-righteous of culture get out off their sad faces
>> false ideas, and to the others get out of your
>> consciousness and learn to fertilise the world in
>> other way than we have taught you to do here: unlearn
>> the past, become like erased last man, quick b4 you
>> become ressentful and ronchon. --- john writer
>> <johnwriter at mac.com> wrote:
>> > Are there any current online reading groups
>> > discussing a specific D&G
>> > text?
>> >
>> > Is it in the perview of the list to knot it around a
>> > text?
>> > John
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