[D-G] What is the difference between a schizo and a bad poet?

[Jon Mendel]

Hi,

I'd agree about an ambiguity (inc. in D&G) in terms of identity - war 
machines, for example, seem to take on certain 'identities' (even if 
these are just points they pass through) in constituting their 
exteriority to the state...  In the global justice movement today (even 
if you want to argue that it forms some kind of multitude) it still 
seems that certain identities are taken up by activists and used in 
their struggles, even if this is just to let them achieve further 
democratisations of politics and of the movement/s - which often do just 
perpetrate the existing political order/s, but needn't neccessarily.

Anyway, e-mails flying around (or the whisky...) remind me of 
Lacan/Zizek again - arguing all the time about identity, about the 
traumas of fascism, because there is no 'final word' that could put 
these in their place; these accusations always orientate towards the 
same (real?) place ;)

Jon

sid littlefield wrote:

>Since we seem to be moving into some conversation about "identity politics", I am forced to ask how it is we arrived here. But I also recognize that that is not so important. The accusations are flying and they always seem to arrive at the same place.  Fascism everywhere. Beware!Beware! Watch out for that dreaded identity, it is a weight that drowns.  Perhaps we should ask whether the 'democratization' (notice the marks) of poitical groups does not lead to the perpetuation of the network that is already in power.  We only have to look to those very successful protests against the latest American imperialist enterprise.  So yes, run, run away. Flee before those marks of grammar. 
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>To bring this back to D & G, it seems that it is not entirely clear that their politics is the sort that is completely 'democratized'. No to the Party? Yes. But no to some collective, that has an identity, that has something that bring it together? No. 
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>p.s. 
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>I especially like the accusation of 'academic'. Well done.
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