[D-G] University program on Brexit and Yellow Jacket (about << multiplicities in rhetoric>>)

[Mike Lansing]

Hardt and Negri mention an exodus in Empire. This exodus is also
happening in religion to religion, whereby human populations become
more knowledgeable, knowledge slowly replacing the unwieldy violence
and danger of faith. 

16 Dec 2018 Turkey Says Trump Told Erdogan He's 'Working on
Extraditing' Gulen

16 Dec 2018 U.S. Working to Extradite Cleric Fethullah Gulen

One thing to do is to schizoanalyze Gulen's writings (if any American
prisoners actually have access to them). In this way the reader will be
more educated about the copulations of church and state made to appear
as normalcy, and perhaps desire a review of Derrida's Of Grammatology.
We can excerpt H&N's passage on the morphology of the State as related
in LoD. On the autopsy list, Yellow Jackets will compare to Gulen's
followers accused of an attempted coup.

World's Most Dangerous Islamist Alive, Well, and Living in Pennsylvania
https://freedomoutpost.com/worlds-most-dangerous-islamist-alive-well-and
-living-in-pennsylvania/
'....Neighbors complain of the incessant sounds of gunfire -- including
the rat-tat-tat of automatic weapons -- coming from the compound....But
in 2008 a Federal Court ruled that Gulen was an individual with
"extraordinary ability in the field of education" who merited permanent
residence statue in the U.S. '

Gulen -- Turkey's Invisible Man Casts Long Shadow
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09ANKARA1722_a.html
'....We have heard accounts that TNP applicants (Turkish National
Police) who stay at Gulenist pensions are provided the answers in
advance to the TNP entrance exam.'

Since god is death and death is absolute knowledge, who should be
surprised that knowledge envy takes such paths especially in a secular
country such as Turkey? 

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Johnatan Petterson [internet.petterson at gmail.com]
>Sent: 12/14/2018 4:46:39 PM
>To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
>Subject: Re: [D-G] University program on Brexit and Yellow Jacket
(about 
><< multiplicities in rhetoric>>)
>
>Le ven. 14 déc. 2018 à 19:59, Mike Lansing <badger2 at mail2world.com> a
>écrit :
>
>> Evanescence or withering away of the State: Hardt and Negri would
>> contend that it did not happen, only a different morphology (Labor of
>> Dionysus: Critique of State Form).
>>
>> The 'social time' mentioned in the Le Monde report exquisitely meshes
>> with the pathologies of religion, and some of us are not surprised
that
>> its automatons are freaking out as the exodus from fairy tales grows,
>> and where knowledge replaces the very dangerous infantilism of faith.
>> The morphology of the rhizomatic itself may be changing.
>>
>> In "Ousia and Gramme," Derrida pursues the link between the problem
of
>> temporality and the logic of identity by analyzing the treatment of
>> time in the fourth book of Aristotle's Physics. Aristotle points out
>> that there would be no time if there were only one single now.
Rather,
>> there must be at least (two [italics]) nows -- "an earlier one before
>> and a later one after" -- in order for there to be time. Time is thus
>> defined as succession, however, Aristotle realizes that it
contradicts
>> his concept of identity as (presence in itself [it.]) A self-present,
>> indivisible now could never even begin to give way to another now,
>> since what is indivisible cannot be altered. This observation leads
>> Aristotle to an impasse, since his logic of identity cannot account
for
>> the succession that constitutes time.
>>
>> Derrida articulates:
>>
>> 'Let us consider the sequence of nows. The preceding now, it is said,
>> must be destroyed by the following now. But Aristotle then points
out,
>> it cannot be destroyed "in itself" (en beautoi), that is, at the
moment
>> when it is (now, in act). No more can it be destroyed in another now
>> (en alloi): for then it would not be destroyed as now, itself; and.
as
>> a now which has been, it is....inaccessible to the action of the
>> following now.'
>>
>> Hence, as long as one holds on to the idea of an indivisible now --
or
>> more succinctly: as long as one holds on to the concept of identity
as
>> presence in itself -- it is impossible to think succession....The now
>> must disappear in its very event....Faced with the relentless
division
>> of temporality, one must subsume time under a nontemporal presence in
>> order to in order to secure the philosophical logic of identity.'
>>
>> This is why god is death, as well as an impossibility. This is also
>> Chekatt's "Allah Akbar," as the religious automaton reels from the
>> internalized (non-rhizomatic) either-or terror, as a
>> swastiko-schizmogenetic pinball caught in the crooks of the cross
>> (fylfot) and violently repelled to the outside as a
"once-and-for-all"
>> act.
>>
>>
>i am just coming back from shopping seeing the book by negri on
>metropolis (and i thank you for you pointing me towards buying book by
>negri again)
>and even notwithstanding the pointhoodness of his analysis, whereas if
>there is a "class"
>or a "city", or a "state", let's at least conceive them different in
>various parts of the world.
>
>the habits of the English & French speaking intellectual, is to
consider
>her or his discourse
>on "relatedness" i think the concept of labour might be more
immediately
>modular,
>because it is a Force, in the physical sense, it is unique and
(constantly
>& non-constantly) non-determinable and a bit determinable,
>Becoming other, as to how it is related to other Force(s);
>but it should be the case with State as well, in the sense that
Guattari
>told that aesthetic refining Subjectivity Process
>could exist at the scale of a certain City, or another. so i thought to
>say State was "virtual yet real" i only meant
>the actual electronics of the state can be invisible when you are in
>contact with other electrons.
>what could be interesting to know is when does the Philosopher or the
>intellectual chooses to define
>an agency as "State", or the same agency in a different time interval,
as
>"War Machine" or mutation machine,
>given the consideration taken into account of ATP Virilio related
about the
>States becoming a agency in charge
>of the interest of a World Mutant War Machine. if we are constrained
by the
>ATP hierarchy between States and Mutant World Machine,
>there can be different States cohabiting together, within a same area,
if
>this area is "same", in relation to certain orders which can be checked
>by different conceptual or partial observers, or even orders of
opinions.
>So that as we talk about Cheriff Schekatt, if it's one guy who
>was part of the Islamic State, which is a Nomad speedy Machine
travelling
>in Iraq, Syria, France, USA, Philippine, Syria, Libya , Egypt, etc
then its
>an interesting question
>to notice it failed to become a State. probably because its not
acquired
>enough Stability? its something unstable, a chaotic state in electrons.
>But i don't think ATP would have included the idea of a Visible State (
>perceptible to the Persona ) as a terrorist entity as Lacan had said
(your
>quote)
>yet perhaps as a limited potential, which lacks the speed to think how
to
>grow. in that we could compare the Islamic State such as it was in
Raqqa in
>2016 and the French State such as it is now?
>only inasmuch it is "self-limiting" itself. But i think the Toynbees
>Monads, are not "church and state" violence if it can be including the
>perception of its limits by the Personae.
>that's why we have a need to connect the Monads by knowing their
Content
>(high number of agencies) with intersections schizoid medleys and
Personae.
>if you say that you have found in Dionysus Labour by Negri, a proof
that
>the State has acquired a different morphology (i assume you are talking
>then about
>the impact of new handling of "immaterial" labour by cybernetics, or
>something the like?) i wanted to know if you thought about this new
>morphology
>to be the one of this ATP World Mutant War faithless Violent Machine?
which
>if it were a State, would, still accordingly to ATP, then have the two
>aspects of being Dummezil compatible,
>and thus Soft Power and Real Politic together? (Le Borgne et le
Manchot --
>Pompidou & DeGaulle cfr ATP) , but would be more Stable, so that we are
>building the growing rhizomatics from its limitations?
>What there is in Common to the ATP Machine and ours, is not important i
>guess at the nomadic conceptual level, but on the time level since
1980 The
>rhizome have grown, and thus it is just natural sortof saying
>the rhizomatic is different? its tautological ?? and the Rhizomes being
>sometimes the size of Planets systems, and sometimes a few particles at
>planck's length, the morphology is modular.
>If what matters, is freeing Labour from Limits (thus from sadness),
freeing
>Personae, Medleys connections is what matters. The ATP World Mutant
Machine
>is what's the most Stable attractor of growth.
>I admit it is interesting, because it is Invisible, sometimes to
different
>Personae, and especially living in different cities, different sights
on
>the Mutant ATP Growth shall be caught. The Medleys can help
>and act as relays in "making the ATP World Mutant Machine"
Perceptible, and
>enjoyable by Personae. A City, as said Guattari, can, on certain
levels of
>agencies, make it more
>immediately prehensible by the inhabitant Personae, in close contact to
>Medleys. That's where Labour should become interesting. Building such
>Medleys, enabling sights for the Community.
>That's how the Community would become, if there where enough works
building
>such Schizoid Medleys, would become more "consistent", more Stable, in
a
>way compatible to
>the other cities on the planet. Even if in a different way. Because in
>contact with ATP World Mutant Machine.
>
>Best,
>J.Pett.
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