[D-G] Dosse

[Charles J. Stivale]

Dear Julia, Jeff and all,
Some impressions on the Dosse book: I am, like the rest of you, generally impressed at the detail of the many ebbs and flows of the individual lives recounted there, and then their intersections. What both amuses me and perplexes me, as somewhat of an insider to some of the events in ch. 26 "Winning over the West," is the somewhat haphazardness of the interviews on which Dosse establishes the details of chs 26 & 27. Not that there is anything necessarily "wrong" (although the SubStance 66 issue I edited came out in 1991, before the first Trent conference in 1992; cf. note 30, p. 604), but some of it seems approximate. E.g., as eminent as Dudley Andrew is as a film scholar, he does not strike me as the most obvious person to contact re Deleuze and film. Some of this makes me wonder what in the earlier chapters (that I read entirely as an outsider, uninvolved in the events of the 50s-80s) also corresponds to such approximations. 
In any case, this is a rather important assessment of the becomings of their works.
CJ Stivale

----- Original Message -----
From: Julia Barclay <julia.barclay at googlemail.com>
To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
Sent: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 07:19:25 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [D-G] Books on Deleuze and Guattari after 2000

I agree and am also glad that Guattari's contribution can be re-viewed through this new lens, as not somehow ancillary, as it seems to be generally described by academics these days, but as crucial.  I get very annoyed when Deleuze And Guattari's work is subsumed into Deleuze studies.  They are different beasts and the Dosse book makes that clear, I think.  Also, loving all the detail.  It's fascinating, and shows that indeed, as the old feminist saw goes, the personal is political...
Julia

Julia Lee Barclay, PhD
Artistic Director
Apocryphal Theatre
www.flyingoutofsequence.org

On 13 Mar 2011, at 00:14, Cain, Prof. Jeffrey P. wrote:

> Prof. Stivale is one of the major authorities on D&G, and it's great news that he's re-doing the concepts book. which I have found useful and also recommended to my students. It's always worth a visit to his web pages. I'm glad too that he mentioned Gilles Deleuze: Image and Text--I just ordered my copy.  Thanks Charlie.
> 
> The Dosse book is really fascinating--it somewhat transgresses the line of viewing D&G as post-personal subjects and other ontological niceties, but I'm finding out quite a bit, especially about Guattari.  I knew, for example, that he was a communist, but I had no idea that he was such a purist, sticking to the Trotsky line right through a split with the French Communist Party.  Also the details of early days at La Borde, the influence of Oury, the various relationships, fractures, splits, and reconciliations do give you some tempting facts.  It's hard not to consider that some of the milieu--and I use the word in D&G's own sense(s)--affected their re-reading of Freud along political lines.  It's not the only reason Anti-Oedipus turned out as it did of course; there are obviously thousands of other singularities, potentials, discursive formations, transversal becomings, and so forth.  But it is something I hadn't thought about much before reading Dosse.  I'd be interested t
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> know how others feel.
> 
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> 
> Thank you everybody. I sort of fell behind following new books on Deleuze
> and Guattari (articles are different story, I've got most of them), but I
> think I can get it sorted out now with those three books C. Stivale
> mentioned.
> 
> Best,
> a.
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