[D-G] Fw: Concepts seen as functions (malgosia askanas)

Harald Wenk hwenk at web.de
Mon Aug 8 15:49:14 PDT 2011


Dear group,

In WIP they are "toolmakers" not "toolusers".

Best regrads

Harald Wenk


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From: "Super Dragon" <superdragon at addlebrain.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 12:13 AM
To: <deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org>
Subject: Re: [D-G] Fw:  Concepts seen as functions (malgosia askanas)

> Hi Harald
> In WIP, D and G also suggest that a concepts are tools and part of 
> becoming a philsopher is to be able to discern which ones work. I am not a 
> philospher as i wouldn#t be wasting my time in this kind of discussion if 
> I already had that kind of discernment. Hence I still need images 
> sometimes for abstract things to make sense to me and to compare them with 
> other syetems of thought. I think it less a crime against thought to be 
> open about being a learner in the sea of philosophy (perhaps wearing 
> unfashionable armbands) than apppeal to Lacan to interpret D and G to make 
> myself look cool! The object a is one of the lacanian concepts retained by 
> D and G but the underpinning logic of the Big Other is not (unless you 
> subscribe to a wholly anthropomorphic understanding of outside thought). 
> There is a sense in which your appeal sounds like keeping your head above 
> water (while denying the supports). Why?
>
>
>
>
>
> Sloughing one's skin.-The snake that cannot slough its skin perishes. 
> Likewise spirits which are prevented from changing their opinions; they 
> cease to be spirits (Nietzsche: Daybreak:V:573)
>
>
> --- hwenk at web.de wrote:
>
> From: "Harald Wenk" <hwenk at web.de>
> To: <deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org>
> Subject: [D-G] Fw:  Concepts seen as functions (malgosia askanas)
> Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 16:46:56 -0400
>
> Dear group
>
> In"what is philsophy" D&G calim that teh concepts and their components
> are "flight over" with an infinite velocity.
>
> Beside that, they ascribe thinking in images to the "old"
> (wise) and concepts are the more "modern" abstractive way of thinking.
>
> Concerning Lacans object "a" I like to inform you
> that a Lacan group is available on driftline.
>
>
> MfG Harald
>
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>>From: "Super Dragon" <superdragon at addlebrain.com>
>>Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 6:02 PM
>>To: <deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org>
>>Subject: Re: [D-G] Concepts seen as functions (malgosia askanas)
>>
>>>I was trying to express the way a concept passes only through its own 
>>>components in the plane of immanence. Swimming seemed a useful image for 
>>>this
>>>
>>>Sloughing one's skin.-The snake that cannot slough its skin perishes. 
>>>Likewise spirits which are prevented from changing their opinions; they 
>>>cease to be spirits (Nietzsche: Daybreak:V:573)
>>>
>>>
>>>--- hwenk at web.de wrote:
>>>
>>>From: "Harald Wenk" <hwenk at web.de>
>>>To: <deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org>
>>>Subject: Re: [D-G] Concepts seen as functions (malgosia askanas)
>>>Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 08:46:35 -0400
>>>
>>>Dear group,
>>>
>>>The picture of the head ove water in a struggling
>>>of swimming si raelly good,
>>>but it ahs indded to eb expalined a lot.
>>>
>>>You refer to the eternel intellectual part of the human mind, arent you?
>>>
>>>Reardimng universal
>>>notuions stay to
>>>be:
>>>ante re, in re, post re,
>>>in spite they are THEMSELVES events or singularities.
>>>
>>>(Ther are "copies" or "tokons", repetituions ).
>>>
>>>"old fashioned" as I am,
>>>I like to "translate" the old to the new
>>>expresssions as undertandable a possible.
>>>Especially,as there are lots and lots of notions in philolsophy,
>>>not always good ones.
>>>
>>>Buti like metaphers, symboles and images, narratives too.
>>>
>>>
>>>greetings
>>>
>>>Harald
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