[D-G] michael hardt

Sun Apr 27 02:30:07 PDT 2008

Hello Superdragon,

even if you may not believe it,
but I read a dissertation on "Vedanta and Spinoza" from India in 1949.
The Indian vedantin author found great ressemblances.
Not speak that Spinoza is one of the very view western philophers who met
the very high moral standads vedanta philosophers
have to accept a philosopher as "jnani" or vedantin. 
 Things go even deeper, as the "psychisme"
coincides with Indian psycholgy so good, 
that there maybe some kind
of unkown hidden influence
from oversea in that "golden age"
of netherland colonialism.  

There is a reamrk at the 
begining of the "treatasie of the improvemnet of
the mid" by Spinoza,
that Spinoza sees himself unable "to change his way of life"
in order to reach "beatitude".
This maybe a common hint at  that time
to the more or less known
or ""heard" (yoga) practices in oversea. 

greetings Harald Wenk

PS. The sanke cit of Nietzsche maybe dueto teh experience of teh
growing conciousness and brain activity, where
some "thresholds" (he skins of the snake)  on the brain body without organs are
overcome in a durable way. Thius giving way for a emnlarged, more lust and less pain giving
generous organization of the brain - obercoming the "oragnism" partly too.  

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Hi Filip, I find it useful to think of difference in terms of individuated difference and individuating difference. the domain of concepts on realy belongs to the former as individuating difference is without concept.
other ways of thinking of individuating difference is as an ordinal multiplicity that exceeds the terms of reference of cardinal multiplicities or individuated differences and organized composites, opening on to the much disputed 'body without organs' of deleuze and guattari's collaborations. Deleuze points to encounter with difference in terms of a clamour, in which individuated differences can not be discerned so it is also deindviduating difference in so far as it desubjectivises the indivuated differences of the organized composite-there are useful parallels with this and hindu mysticism(s) which aim for lived encounter with non-dual reality (advaita). in other words, it is a mistake to try and pin difference down under a rigourous definition. it is more useful to try and define the work that difference without concept does in Deleuze and Deleuze and Guattari's texts.

hope that makes sense
Ruth  
would love to join your reading group but don't have time right now. maybe i could dip in now and then with a queery?
Sloughing one's skin.-The snake that cannot slough its skin perishes. Likewise spirits which are prevented from changing their opinions; they cease to be spirits (Nietzsche: Daybreak:V:573)   

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From: filip <fildh at gmx.net>
To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] michael hardt
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:07:25 +0200

Great,

well i'm on it, i'm reading it, and i have found some other stuff that 
could be usefull.
here is an article, that discuss the first part of chapter one: it is 
about the early writings
of deleuze: La conception de la différence chez Bergson (translated by 
Melissa McMAhon
bergson's conception of difference")

the temporalization of difference: reflections on deleuze's 
interpretation of bergson
giovanna borrador (continental philophy review 34: 1-20:2001)

but i would like to ask a question. Maybe it is a bit obvious, but still 
i wanna know.

can anyone give me a good definition of difference. I know what it is, 
and most of the time
people start explaining it by pointing out where deleuze or bergson use 
it. but i have never
found a very good definition of it; i have looked it up in the 
dictionary of deleuze for example
and not that instructive. or if someone can give me a url. that would be 
nice. i'm really in need
of a rigorous definition.

thanx a lot
greetings

Christopher Moreno schreef:
> Hello,
>
> I am interested in reading along with you all as well. Hardt book is good
> for understanding need to also read Spinoza, Nietzsche and Bergson.
>
> Chris
>
> On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Christian Diel <jecopo at gmx.de> wrote:
>
>   
>> I would join in for the Kant book, already read it so if anyone needs
>> help with it.... I offer my services.
>>
>> Best
>> CD
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 26.04.2008 um 12:24 schrieb Nadeem Hameed:
>>
>>     
>>> thans for the file, anyone interested to read togather
>>> this text and deluze's kant....
>>> --- ".+oot8am wakeup" <dr.crawboney at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>> hi folks,
>>>> I have not read the book either but it looks like a
>>>> good one.
>>>> http://www.mediafire.com/?70v3po3wbg0 (thnks shards)
>>>> Amazon has some brief customer reviews, perhaps it
>>>> would be nice to read
>>>> along.
>>>> clap clap,
>>>> dc
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