[Deleuze-Guattari] Deleuze-Guattari Digest, Vol 35, Issue 26

hwenk hwenk at web.de
Sun Sep 30 02:59:21 PDT 2007


Dear  deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org

also Micheal and ze oter memebers of the list.


Unfortunataly or nozt, there are some hard jurustic
obsructiosn concewrniug linmlf anf youth freenesss of internet sites.
In my eyses is looks like as if a
violotaion of these obstructiosn is
artificially construed.
Noe te man jusitic responsible is tha maintainer of te list,
id est
deleuze-guattari-archiver at lists.driftline.org or someone
he knews.
Probably he thonks this is ponly a sevice for free discussion
without dicussing himself to much.
As these jurisitic trap emails
ae able to ruin him, although dicussion about drugs and violance
maintained in the archives can
beused by peoole who
wanz zo destrpy the possibilties of a jonb in
a public or educatioanl realm.
Therfoe we and especially<
deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
needs asomew shelter.
These emails open also teh possibity of justification to
maek you an object of
investigations by the police or something realted institution.
Therfore it is necessary to blame them.
On teh side on discusssion,
tere are desorientatiinbg anyway.
As such , teh are imposing "the politic of fears"
in a reality by misuing that freedom.
Maybe you yourself get no trouble,but
for someone uniformend he can have sudden trouble without
evenbeing aw<re wher it comes from -
repression need not to be public.
"There is some unclear affair about childs in teh list
he siwriting - you know the state of affairs
in public discussions - we have to stay on the sures side - don't say
anyting, for this suiocion should not be the
issue of a public discussion itself ....."


greetings Harld WEnk
and dear
deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
pleeas check the arcjives carefully and thonk about how ro
blame misuse - or we alltogether.


greetings Harlfd Wenk


-----Original Message-----
From: deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org
[mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of martin
hardie
Sent: Sonntag, 30. September 2007 08:56
To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [Deleuze-Guattari] Deleuze-Guattari Digest, Vol 35, Issue
26


Michael

it's true about the list and the paranoid ravings about sabotage especially

but is

- a 'list owner'

0r

- a moderator


really what we want to 'control' a D&G list?



On 30/09/2007, Michael O'Rourke <tranquilised_icon at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Dear listowner,
>
> Is there any way we can access this list in English? I
> understand that many folks on the list may find it off
> putting that we have to discuss D&G in English rather
> than French but the garbled gibberish (see below for
> example--a quite appalling mangling of the language
> which really could be solved by a simple spell check)
> one has to wade through on this list is hardly
> conducive to dicussion of their work (no matter what
> your first language is).
>
> So, can this list be moderated in any fashion?
>
> Best wishes,
> Michael O'Rourke, University College Dublin
>
>
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> >    1. Re: Sabotation continued - Truncated Emaisl to
> > this list (hwenk)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 21:24:20 +0200
> > From: "hwenk" <hwenk at web.de>
> > Subject: Re: [Deleuze-Guattari] Sabotation continued
> > - Truncated
> >       Emaisl to       this list
> > To: <deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org>
> > Message-ID:
> > <CCEDLGKAPMNCCGMGGGDJIELKDKAA.hwenk at web.de>
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> > Dear list members,
> >
> > as far as I grasped it, some Email providers
> > truncated an email or delete soemthing from it
> > if teh content is not fullfilling
> > the convenbtions for emails,
> > especially injuring character.
> > THereare als emailss services, as in google, which
> > then comne sas gmail.com
> > which finnds automatically caontenx s for you
> > and you can reply automatically.
> > Thsi, if an eamil wher the name
> > Deleuze is poccureing, you will be informed,
> > m,aybe you reponmse automaztically some injuring or
> > desoreibnating
> > email - as you are not a frien of Deleuze forexampl.
> >
> > This expalins the difficulties for such list,
> > as desorientation is made easy by list providers.
> > AS gogle with gamil.com has such service,
> > emiaas from gmail. com maybe have such
> > bnad backgriund .--n otdue to fgoole,
> > but to te misusers of te swervice.
> >
> > I am not aware how to avoid this automazic
> > desotienting mails.
> > Ha sany other in thes list an idea?
> >
> >
> > greetings Harald Wenk
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org
> >
> [mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org]On
> > Behalf Of hwenk
> > Sent: Freitag, 28. September 2007 15:33
> > To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> > Subject: [Deleuze-Guattari] Sabotation continued
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > The Emails from the real Adline van Lindenbergh to
> > this list had other
> > Emailadresses than: Mas Que Palabras
> > [xavier.buades at gmail.com].
> >
> > Also the contents of the mails gets more confusing,
> > even selfblaming and confessing some bad intentions,
> > especially the last two.
> > Looks more than the invention of a
> > possible invented cyber"schizo".
> >
> > In old greek  had been the
> > cyniks, who, with the masque of being
> > somewwaht "crazy" had made also
> > hard injuries.
> > With a little thinking combiantion it was
> > often by payment of somebody who had
> > an interest in injuring.
> >
> > This tradition goes fuerther to
> > teh "fools" of temiddle ages,
> > a mixture of crazy, saint
> > and comedian.
> > This tardition is also connected
> > "Who's bread I eat, who's songs I  sing".
> >
> > This last tradition
> > is sometimes used in
> > a "simulacra" of fools,
> > like, in my exes, in this case.
> >
> > As usuasl, the issue of
> > discussion is tried to be changed again,
> > although the issue of "local and
> > global", inaugurated by mails from
> > Mas Que Palabras [xavier.buades at gmail.com]
> > or cs bwo has been taken up.
> >
> > It looks really hard to maintain
> > a serious discussion on isues
> > worthile pondering and thinking,
> > the last email on masochism and flagelanism
> > and concoiousness and
> > uncnciousnes.
> > The non sexual character of so
> > callled "leger" cloth
> > could also be of interest for
> > more or less dogmaic or oragnized christians.
> >
> > To give anothe bobon for this gruop:
> > " All strates are chanting the glory of god"
> > is aslo a cite from "Mille plateaux".
> >
> > Also the "numen", the highest inscribing
> > energy into memory, is attributed to be
> > "divine".
> >
> > There is an explanation of th child crusades
> > in the early middle ages
> > and the question, where the "power" of
> > the church steems from - without or
> > little military or econimcal force.
> >
> > As Nietzsche put it: "The church,
> > a goverment the the spirit" - thatis is not so
> > coarse.
> >
> > Also Nietzsche:
> > "The ideal of the christian priest was not enough
> > for me -
> > but you have to see what high ideal  this has been".
> > Niezsche was the son of ----- an evngelien priest.
> > Like Riemann, the mathematician.
> > Kirkegaard too.
> >
> > greetings Harlad Wenk
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