[Deleuze-Guattari] The Wound (Deleuze)

[martin hardie]

is this the tour de france mr wenk?

why does it not fit together...because why?

maybe miss tina should be thrown off the race and sent home to denmark .....
but i don't think mr wenk understands ....

On 08/08/2007, hwenk <hwenk at web.de> wrote:
>
> Hello Tina,
>
> that is a quote from your first Email,
>
>
>
> > Thanks in anticipation, Tina (Cultural Studies BA student)
>
>
> This is a quote from your second Email
>
> > This is for my dissertation.
>
> (See both below)
>
> As anyoone sees, this does not fit together.
>
> As I am more interested in truth than in
> condeming, I would be pleased if you
> would tell what is going on?
> This is also because a lot of literature afterwards.
>
> So, would you bew so kind to explain?
> It is difficult to see things not as
> gaining personal informations of me.
> As long as the intentions are hidden,
> this could hardly be sen as friendly.
>
> Curois greetings
>
> Harald Wenk
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org
> [mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of
> fin5tr at leeds.ac.uk
> Sent: Samstag, 4. August 2007 08:44
> To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> Subject: Re: [Deleuze-Guattari] The Wound (Deleuze)
>
>
> Hello Gerald,
>
> Thanks very much for your comprehensive reply.
>
> This is for my dissertation. My primary theorist is Deleuze and I'm
> applying
> him
> to a piece of text by R. D. Laing (Knots).
>
> I was thinking of using the wound (as in "my wound existed before") as a
> kind of
> primal wound of sorts. Rather like how Althusser says that our
> subjectivity
> exists before we are even born (in the Freudian sense). So we are born
> into
> our
> oedipal trajectory.
>
> Anyway, perhaps I can still do that.
>
> Your email was very helpful, thank you, and gave me some avenues to
> pursue.
>
> Are you an academic? What is your interest in Deleuze?
>
> Thanks again...
>
> Much appreciated, Tina
>
>
> Quoting hwenk <hwenk at web.de> on Fri 03 Aug 2007 21:19:35 BST:
>
> > Hello Tina,
> >
> > there is a new French edition from 1996,
> > but I didn't found any translation (here in Germany) - like you,
> probably.
> > The text is the last of Deleuze being published,
> > and it is indeed very abstract.
> >
> > I don't know what you are doing,
> > but "the wound" is a reference in a the last footnote where
> > the connection between virtuality and
> > happenings(?) has been elaborated and concretised.
> >
> > In a first order approximation
> > one could see virtualities as
> > dream/perception/thinking(all together, mixed, and differentiating while
> > "living") - with emotion from the
> > conscious side. But what is happening on the object side?
> > A wound is subjective and objective (from medicine).
> > The wound has also some objective subjective reality,
> > to speak so, as for some  to have a wound is
> > in certain limits the same, or recognizable - also understandable,
> > also to have a wound is do much subjective that you are
> > brought back sometimes to the
> > pure life, which is mentioned as example,
> > even if a bad guy is going to die,
> > one tries to help.
> >
> > But, as I pointed out,
> > I don't what you want.
> > Even dreaming of a wound has its objective "effects"
> > or thinking of a wound - even if you never get one.
> > I am not trying to speak ex cathedra as
> > canonical interpretation. Its my own in responding you after reading the
> > text.
> >
> > But texts so abstract as this one from Deleuze are best
> > understood to connect it
> > to from experience or
> > possible experience - what is also the theme of
> > the text itself.
> >
> > So, maybe the question: Working on Deleuze without speaking French?
> > Without any loss?
> > This is for sure  possible on a B.A. level.
> > So, to summarize - I am not aware of a translation of
> > Bousquet and I  think to read
> > another book of him is not so
> > helpful in understand the text of Deleuze.
> > Maybe you look in Difference and repetition
> > or also in Duns Scot himself - keeping the wound in mind.
> > But the text of Sartre is also very important for Deleuze,
> > he quotes it in central passages in "what is philosophy".
> >
> >
> > But, I don't what you know or try to do.
> >
> >
> > Greetings Harald Wenk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org
> > [mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of
> > fin5tr at leeds.ac.uk
> > Sent: Freitag, 3. August 2007 17:45
> > To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> > Subject: [Deleuze-Guattari] The Wound (Deleuze)
> >
> >
> > In 'Immanence: A Life' Deleuze refers to Bousquet's wound and cites his
> work
> > 'Les Capitales'. Can anyone tell me if this is available in English,
> please?
> > If
> > not, does anyone know which translated works of Bousquet refer directly,
> and
> > in
> > detail, to the wound.
> >
> > Also, does anyone know where Deleuze expands on this idea of the wound,
> if
> > he
> > does at all. Or if anyone else (say, poststructuralist) does.
> >
> > Thanks in anticipation, Tina (Cultural Studies BA student)
> >
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