[D-G] Social List - Novalis "Writing is " OGM -

[hwenk]

Hello,

I refer to the theory of Spinoza that the essence of every being is to
stay in being (conatus), to try to exist further on. The normal economic way
of thinking is that companies are there for earning money.
But most of the money is reinvested and has to, for otherwise
the money incorporated in the company, the capital, which is normally
greater than the
money gained in one period, is lost.
This, in some thinking, bounds to say that you don't posses the company but
the companies
possess you. Especially if you want to earn money for
a unfinished number of periods.
Now to make science appropriate for new inventions for the market is
normally to
expensive and is done only in very big companies like IBM or ITT,
also relying on high parts on university scientific research.
The way engineers invent is very often
professional zed by tools, also mathematical theories,
which make things easier and bound to be computed and foreseen.
This, in terms of Marx, boils  invention in large parts down to
some kind of average or routine work.
This can also be rationalized by computer programs,
as it is done for example for the layout of the
design of new microchips, which is computer aided.
As you can see, there are always new microchips developed.
 Sometimes there is even a road map of the development
of new chips, that are long term plans with stages.


This is not so bad, for all people know what they have to expect,
which gives a secure or controlled development.

greetings Harald Wenk

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-Minnie
Sent: Mittwoch, 22. Februar 2006 19:23
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Subject: Re: [D-G] Social List - Novalis "Writing is " OGM -


 companies and scientifics need to cooperate
  why is this view "spinozistic" or nietzscean as you may have implied sort
of way?
  why should the body with which scientists cooperate with, be posited into
the
  market evaluation of cheap/expensive, is this meaning scientist are too
narrowed in their researsh by companies to offer their own evaluation, what
could this tell non user of science plane of reference, about any
narrowdness in the expression of, and ultimate try of generalization,
conflating void of truth. are scientists thence just part of
  whatever the object they study / discover / produce?

  cheers g

hwenk <hwenk at web.de> wrote:
  Hello,

in a first spinozistic view they want simply their company to exist
further on, mostly on
a higher level.
Inventing something maybe not so bad but expensive. Cheaper is to adapt
something developed at the universities.

greetings Harald Wenk
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From: deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org
[mailto:deleuze-guattari-bounces at lists.driftline.org]On Behalf Of Gondo
-Minnie
Sent: Dienstag, 21. Februar 2006 23:46
To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
Subject: Re: [D-G] Social List - Novalis "Writing is " OGM -


Hello,
>
> as far as I know, the population of the earth is still growing.
> The only possibilty to avoid starving of more people is to
> increase the production of food.
> In Europe and Japan, maybe also in the USA, there is
> overproduction of food concerning their own markets.
> But in the more poor countries of the third world this is of course not
> the
> case.
>


ok so but why is it first in Europe and Japan than maybe USA but anyway
some companies commercialize the products. Because they want to further
invent something else. What do you think?


>
> But thinking ecological is in my eyes thimking in termes of harmony and
> long
> terms,
> the children of the children of the children .. should also live
> happy without any danger on this earth.
>
> greetings Harald WEnk
>
> -----

ok but France is a rich country and i think the operation is different.
If there was a disaster, and OGM were sent immediately massively to
Tsunami affected people, plants growing faster. Or for nomads houses in
ecological hight tech material. Then i would stop reading books. I think we
have to watch the real, not
the possble beauties that will happen in the next century thanks to the
effort of a few brave and cool people.(the scientists). Its tender to look
in this light, and for my depression, it works. And Deleuze maybe not but
Guattari would have said so.
But now if i want to b anyway.

The left is not saying OGM are not natural, they say they are there for a
puprose unexplained. When they say this, the companies producing these type
of products, cannot give them an intelligible answer.

Maybe some gurus and some leftist have said other things. I don't care
.What is interesting is there. Find it. And fold it with something else,
more struggles .


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