[D-G] Hello everyone

[hwenk]

Hello again,

this is a little bit funny, because the introduction is the famous
text "Rhizom".
The rhizom itself is a kind of root.
It consists of "plateaus".
To get a better understanding it is of course good to read the whole
introduction. The plateaus are mentioned near the end of the text,
look at the footnote 21 with reference to
Bateson.
I read it a lot of time ago, even long brfore the appearance of "Mille
Plateaux".
To talk a little, the situation was that Deleuze and Guattari got very
famous in
1972 with their "Anti-oedipe".
As I mentioned before, it was a original, anarchistic inspired
conjunction of Freud andf Marx.
They announced a second volume,
and 1975 or 1976 the introduction "Rhizom" appeared. It is a piece of
poststructalism and tried a kind of thinking a unification without
totalisation.
A modell are the rhizom and the plateaus and mathematically manifolds -
which are described by charts.
This text was quite influentional.
But it lasts until 198o until "Mille Plateaux" itself appeared - this was
too late.
A little bit the discussion of Freud and Marx were over, a decline of the
left had set in. The book is awful complicated, because it tried a new
thinking with references to a lot of
biological and other natural sciences, normally not the realm of
philosophers trained more in linguistics - leading to a bit angryness.
Further the connection to the "anti-oedipe" was not so obvious.
So it was little perceived and I think a lot of former Deleuze Guattari
friends were a little  disappointed.
So in reading the introduction "rhizom" you get also a glimpse of the time,
when Deleuze and Guattari were widely discussed and probably more older
people you meet or talk with have read it too - but not "Mille Plateaux".
I myself would not underwrite every line of Deleuze and Guattari - to speak
harmless.

greetings Harald Wenk


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Subject: RE: [D-G] Hello everyone


hello harald, did you read an intro who wrote it?i
found none in my own edition is it good what is it
about?cheers
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<hwenk at web.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> what about reading the introduction of ATP?
>
> greetings Harald Wenk
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
[mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces at lists.driftline.org]On
> Behalf Of brendan mccall
> Sent: Montag, 3. Oktober 2005 09:27
> To: deleuze-guattari at lists.driftline.org
> Subject: [D-G] Hello everyone!
>
>
> Hi, I just joined the listserv and wanted to
introduce myself.
>
> My name is Brendan McCall, and I am finishing up my
undergraduate work at
> Penn
> State.  I wanted to join this listserv so I can get
a better understanding
> of
> Deleuze and Guattari (naturally, I suppose : ).
>
> Anyway, I have a minimal understanding of D/G and I
am now interested in
> reading
> Haraway's Cyborg Manifesto in light of the excerpts
I've seen from A
> Thousand
> Plateaus.  I don't really know where I am going with
that, but I keep coming
> back to similarities between D/G's organic model
(with rhizomes or whatever)
> to
> Haraway's digital model of connections through
cybernetic networks.  In the
> end, I think both a ripe with potential to my own
evolving political PoV.
>
> I'm wondering if anyone here sees something similar
or if I am talking about
> something that's painfully obvious to all of you.
If anyone is interested,
> I
> would like to talk a little about that as I read
through A Thousand
> Plateaus,
> which I should probably pick up one of these days...
I only have stuff
> that's
> anthologized.
>
> One more thing, I've been wondering if the record
label Mille Plateau took
> the
> name from D/G or if its coincidental... Is there a
story behind that or
> something?
> Glad to be aboard,
> Brendan
>
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