[D-G] attack of the Anti-Oedipe George Lucas Clan

Dr. Harald Wenk hwenk at web.de
Sat May 7 14:28:34 PDT 2005


you may not believe it, but I spent a lot of time
with grasping Deleuze and Guattari, expecting a progressive Philosophy
combinig Freud and Marx, with both I am very well aquainted - reading  
almost the whole works of them.  First the Anti-Oedipe
and the Mille Plateaux. In course of that I read
also difference and repetion, the book on Spinoza, Bergson and a lot of  
other things.
Now there are not many people who are really firm in Deleuze & Guattari,
even the professors of philosophy here in germany failed in that respect.
Naiv as I am, I thought in   a list on Deleuze and Guatarri
there is a discussion on a well informed basis on them.

Someone wished are short form of comprehending Deleuze and Guattari.
Now, if the I is not the last component of our soul and
the barriers of the I are not absolut, the souls are connected
on a subconcious or superconcious level.
To put it with Spinoza, you don't know where your ideas come from.
This is also present in Lacan (on whom I participated on a seminar long  
where he speaks of a jugdement inscribed in the skin of the head, not  
known to
the owner of the head, but socially executed.
This is possible, because in a communication you have always a  
communication  on the
subconcios level, where the I barriers are not absolut.
If you look at a everday discourses with their jumps and
unexpected effects, this gets much more probable.
"To make flighting or kill what makes the system flighting or kills it".
Now the modern little family is a very fragile and overloaded system.
The effect is very little tolerance, which gives schizophrenia,
where you can see on a empirical level the acting of the unconcious
As already the old omne knew: "Children and mad men tell the truth".
This for short.

greetings Harald

Am Wed, 4 May 2005 22:59:08 +0100 (BST) schrieb Liza Kozner  
<liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk>:

> it could be may-be interesting if you should point the
> interest of your intervention on this list.
> what do you expect me to do as an old
> participant/lurker of DeleuzeGuattari List, when I see
> this? can you defend this as not spamming. Of course I
> understand that intellectual are dubious about such
> notions as spamming. But is it not surprisingly wonder
> to my regard, that as soon as we are trying to discuss
> desire, there are forces who are trying to capture it
> into silly or "really paranoid" appaerances?
> Welcome to the List anyway!
> Liza Kozner
> --- Dark Vador <sithgrievious at yahoo.ca> wrote:
>> I am Dark Lord Sith General Grievious, the Master of
>> the Dark Force.
>> I defy Anti-Oedipus Signifiants Apprentcies to this
>> Jedi Fight.
>> Tjjjjjjjjjjjjj everybody, lurkers around, *Light
>> Saber
>> Triggered ON*!!!
>> Somebody has said
>> Goerge Lucas did a movie
>>  which portraid me in my apparatus
>> of capture of the Jedi mascarade.
>> This list will be recuperated as much as Goerge
>> Lucas
>> by my paranoid influencing devices. Be prompt and
>> ready to the Fight!!
>> This List is long ago gone an Avatar of George Lucas
>> Apprentices of Schizo Universes of the False.
>> This is a new War Ship in the horizon. I must go.
>> General Sithious
>> Dark Vador Parano Influence
>> I defy solemnly.
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