[D-G] find the d&g in this

Thu Mar 17 00:11:42 PST 2005

Hello,

I dont know, which science you studied.
But it is much more elaborated than quantitative,
espicially statistic.
A lot of concepts of Deleuze Guatari come from science, especially
Mathematics, most important from differential geometry
the theory of manifolds.
Then there is genetics giong back to Monod and biochemics in general.
You got also cristallography, micro sociokogy (from Gabriel Tarde),
linguistics (from Hjelmsev).
We have economics (by Bernard Schmitt) too.
With the things in ethnology and psychology you are probably aquianted.
This are all non quantiative sciences, at least for the most part.
And the original science there is a little bit more complicated and´
elaborated than Deleuze and Guattari.
This was the science at it was actual at the time of
Mille Plateaux (ATP - which is also a stuff important in photo synthesis).
As you can imagine, in the meantime there has happened a lot.
This is only a non complete collection

Best regards

Harald Wenk

Am Tue, 15 Mar 2005 08:55:10 -0500 schrieb joan carol urquhart  
<jcu at execulink.com>:

> After studying science for a few years,
> it and the quantitative /qualitative research model,
> I found that there are other ways to think.
>
> D&G are constantly imploring this,
> constatly discovering it in the art of others,
> that there are other habits of mind
> to consider
>
>
>
>
> From: "Dr. Harald Wenk" <
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005
> Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this
>
>
> Hello,
>
> I have the impression, you got a quite reduced impression of science.
> There is
>
>
>
> Am Mon, 7 Mar 2005 18:37:54 -0500 schrieb joan
>
>> o yea of little faith
>>
>> it is not psychology,
>> not Pavlov's dog
>>
>> but more likely neural pathways criss crossing
>> on the zig zag of synaptic perception,
>> a differently-configured neural matrix,
>> a reflex response that finds its origin in neurology
>> and cannot be adequately described with words
>>
>> words fail to say it adequately
>> and that is why D&G play with language,
>> show great interest with artists and their percepts,
>> and create portemanteau words that express new ideas
>>
>> the experience of a juxtaposition of two sense perceptions, consistently
>> paired,
>> is something more than associated memory
>> or the conditioned experience of culture,
>>
>> and if colour and sound vibrate to similar frequencies
>> there might be scientific grounds to quantify synaesthesia of this kind
>> one
>> day
>>
>> regardless,
>> its usefulness to D&G thinking lies in its metaphor,
>> if one is open
>>
>> meanwhile,
>>
>> sweet dreams
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Dr. Harald Wenk" <
>> To: <
>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 5:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> if we see an assemblage as an association, we are perfectly d'arcord.
>> It is merely the psychology of association, which was common
>> in 17th century philosophy. Deleuze mention it in his Hume book and it  
>> is
>> present in Spinoza and  Locke.
>>
>> Good night
>>
>> Dr. Harald Wenk
>>
>>
>> Am Mon, 7 Mar 2005 15:30:06 -0500 schrieb joan
>
>>
>>> Yes.
>>>
>>> The experience of one sensation creates perceptual associations
>>> in another sense. It is the perceptual experience of one sensation that
>>> triggers the perception of associated sense perceptions.
>>> It is an assemblage.
>>>
>>> For example,
>>>
>>> When I hear words, I visually see the letters spelled out in my head
>>> and each letter has an associated colour, seen in my mind's eye.
>>> A very particular hue is consistently associated with each letter
>>> and has remained so throughout my entire life. I think this is the
>>> most common form of synaesthesia.
>>>
>>> As a child, I thought that everybody  experienced this.
>>> Sometimes, particular (non-alphabetic)sounds also conjure
>>> associated colours in my mind's eye. But when this happens,
>>> the colours also have an associated texture to them.
>>> Like when I hear the sound of a dog growling, I 'see' the sound
>>> in myh head as a sandpapery chili red colour at the same time
>>> that I hear the actual sound. I hear the sound in textured colour.
>>>
>>> It's a good analogy for the way D&G attempt to describe
>>> the smooth space of artistic thought,
>>> as sense-perceptions-in-assemblage-becoming-art-in-the-making.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Dr. Harald Wenk" <
>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 8:53 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [D-G] find the d&g in this
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> do I interprete this right, thart she is only tasting the music if she
>>> hears it at the same time?
>>>
>>> Greetings
>>>
>>> Harald Wenk
>>>
>>> Am Thu, 3 Mar 2005 17:04:58 -0500 schrieb joan
>>>
>>>> Report: Woman 'tastes' musical notes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thursday, March 3, 2005 Posted: 1:18 PM EST (1818 GMT)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LONDON, England (Reuters) -- Music can be a mouth-watering experience
>>>> for
>>>> one Swiss musician who "tastes" combinations of notes as distinct
>>>> flavors,
>>>> according to a report in the science journal Nature.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The 27-year-old woman known as E.S. is a synaesthete, someone who
>>>> experiences sensation in more than one sense from the same  
>>>> stimulation,
>>>> researchers said on Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When E.S. hears tone intervals, the difference in pitch between two
>>>> tones,
>>>> she not only can see the musical notes as different colors but can
>>>> taste
>>>> the
>>>> sounds.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "This is a special case of a musician who, when she hears tone
>>>> intervals,
>>>> she has a perception of a taste of a tone," said psychologist Michaela
>>>> Esslen, of the University of Zurich in Switzerland.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "She doesn't imagine the taste, she really tastes it."
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The case of E.S. reported in Nature is exceptional because seeing
>>>> letters or
>>>> digits in a certain color is more common in synaesthesia.  It may also
>>>> involve seeing a musical tone as a color.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But E.S. sees the colors and depending on the tone intervals a  
>>>> symphony
>>>> could be bittersweet, salty, sour or creamy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Whenever she hears a specific musical interval, she automatically
>>>> experiences a taste on her tongue that is consistently linked to that
>>>> particular interval," the scientists said in the journal.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They tested E.S.'s ability by applying solutions tasting sour, bitter,
>>>> salty
>>>> or sweet to her tongue and asking her to identify the tone intervals,  
>>>> a
>>>> difficult task that requires musical training.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When the applied tastes corresponded with the intervals she was able  
>>>> to
>>>> identify them quicker than other musicians.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "We found that E.S.'s tone-interval identification was perfect," the
>>>> researchers said.
>>>>
>
>>>
>
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