[D-G] How does one know when a 'revolutionary' medium has runitscourse?

adline vanlindenbergh bisouxnoursfast at fastmail.fm
Sat Jul 2 15:20:25 PDT 2005


I think that we have to start discussing. I think it is for long that we
need to discuss and I think I am one person among a billions who reads
Deleuze and need this final discussion.

Also we should play amongst other groups, and stop creativity.
Only by stopping andf killing the poet in us, can we understand DG.

Many will disagree, but the Poet will understand.

Also a good idea would be to rhizome. Like Harald did with me.
I liked that.

I think we need also to share and be Communist not with goods but with
ideas.
If you have an idea share it. This is how we can work against the artist
who think they are Deleuzians, but are not worthy of the name.

There are about 120 person who read this mail. I think it's could be
enough to try to bring more crowd.

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "james" <spatium at gmail.com>
> To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org at lists.driftline.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 11:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [D-G] How does one know when a 'revolutionary' medium has
> runitscourse?
> 
> 
> joan
> 
> Have you seen the recent publication of Guattari's "Écrits pour
> l'Anti-Oedipe"?  This book begins to explore the dynamic between D&G
> and Stéphane Nadaud opens with the question of who wrote (consider the
> opening of Rhizome) and how AO was produced, perhaps in the manner of
> a wasp and an orchid...
> 
> james
> 
> On 6/23/05, joan carol urquhart <jcu at execulink.com> wrote:
> >
> > The medium is just a tool.
> > It's usefulness or relevance always recycles.
> >
> > I am interested in the how these two men wrote together.
> > What was that dynamic? And am not sure if anything has been
> > written about this.
> >
> > But to respond to your post,
> > if all it would take is
> > "the right post to send us shooting along a witch's line".
> >  why not give it a try and find out.
> >
> > j
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "sid littlefield" <falsedeity at lycos.com>
> > To: <deleuze-guattari-driftline.org at lists.driftline.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 3:26 PM
> > Subject: [D-G] How does one know when a 'revolutionary' medium has run
> > itscourse?
> >
> >
> > The question is how one is to determine whether a medium can still be
> > considered revolutionary or not. Is it possible for a revolutionary
> artform
> > to no longer be able to produce interesting thoughts.
> >
> > I speak here of two examples. If one looks at Jazz (and ignores Adorno's
> sad
> > attempt to understand/defeat it) one can see the revolutionary importance
> it
> > played, in music but also literature (the beats) etc. But it is difficult
> to
> > see how Jazz can still play this role, especially given its own popularity
> > and the lack of inspiring acts. So, is it exhausted, is such a thing
> > possible.
> >
> > The other example is our own list. I have been a member for a while and
> have
> > seen the floods and the famines. It seems now that this list has run its
> > course and is exhausted, or even dead. And while we may say that there is
> a
> > real lack of interest it is also true everytime something gets started it
> is
> > quickly shot down by the non-sense that floods the list (Although I am
> > impressed that we a monkey and a galactic bounty hunter participating, it
> > does not make the interventions any easier). Is this list exhausted or
> dead?
> > Is it simply waiting for the right post to send us "shooting along a
> witch's
> > line"? Can a form be brought back from the edge of obscurity?
> >
> > This question is larger than my interest in Jazz and our interest in this
> > list. It is a political question that the left is coming to grips with and
> > that this list has now to ask itself.
> >
> > sid
> >
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