[D-G] mona has

[Sylvie Ruelle]

that's "CONDITIONS of a Structure"
On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:13 AM, Sylvie Ruelle wrote:

> It's "Eighth Series of Structure" (Levi-Strauss Paradox - Condition of  
> a Structure - The Role of Singularities) pages 48 - 51.
>
> On Jan 20, 2005, at 8:12 AM, Chapman wrote:
>
>> Sid,
>>
>> I'm asking you the identity of 'LoS#8', I think you see it as a good  
>> place
>> to begin to compare and suss out Deleuze ( '....structuralism?' ) in
>> conjunction with Lacan?
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces at lists.driftline.org
>> [mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces at lists.driftline.org]On
>> Behalf Of sid littlefield
>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 10:54 AM
>> To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org at lists.driftline.org
>> Subject: RE: [D-G] mona has
>>
>>
>> Chris,
>>
>> Since I am writing my dissertation on Deleuze I see no reason not to  
>> read
>> the texts.  Which seminar is Lacan's #8? I will re-read the opening  
>> and
>> closing of Anti-Oedipus. I look forward to your responses.
>>
>>
>> It might be nice if others join in. No pressure. If you prefer  
>> sticking to
>> silly poetic ramblings, or certain un-silly ones, please do.
>>
>> sid
>>>
>>> Sid,
>>>
>>> I'm certainly up for this reading. Niggling abt. is the idea that  
>>> Capital
>> is
>>> the Symbolic. Not a deep insight but a place to begin --
>>>
>>> I have not read much Lacan, only in literary theory class-- Poe's
>> 'Purloined
>>> Letter' in conjunction w/ Derrida's reading of his reading.
>>>
>>> Could we work out a cogible reading list? I'm interested in  
>>> following Gary
>>> Genosko's work on Guattari's semiotic but think we might start with
>> reading
>>> the first and last chapters of AntiO again. I'm going to anyways.
>>>
>>> You think Lacan's Seminar #8?
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces at lists.driftline.org
>>> [mailto:deleuze-guattari-driftline.org-bounces at lists.driftline.org]On
>>> Behalf Of sid littlefield
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:24 AM
>>> To: deleuze-guattari-driftline.org at lists.driftline.org
>>> Subject: Re: [D-G] mona has
>>>
>>>
>>> To these four we should add the fifth (5) Truth
>>>
>>> 1) The event
>>> 2) Ontology
>>> 3) Ontological role/importance of temporality
>>> 4) Majoritarian/minoritarian militant/ethico-aesthetic practice
>>>
>>> I think this would be a very fruitful project. To begin I will  
>>> suggest a
>>> reading: Daniel Smith has a wonderful essay on Deleuze v. Badiou in
>>> relationship to mathematics. I know that it was in the Southern  
>>> Journal of
>>> Philosophy and I imagine that it is floating around in other places  
>>> (Sorry
>>> to participate in the "capitalist desire to read texts but...)
>>>
>>> These are just starting points...
>>>
>>> (1) It strikes me that one difference in the way that D & B look at  
>>> the
>>> event is in the question of the question of language.  It seems that
>> Deleuze
>>> places the event at times into a linguistic enterprise. Of course,  
>>> Badiou
>>> would be forced to reject this being the new non-linguistic  
>>> philosopher.
>>>
>>> (2) I am in the minority but believe that Deleuze was "to be done  
>>> with
>>> ontology." The insistence that being is univocal seems to be great  
>>> strike
>>> against ontology.  If ontological difference is located in the  
>>> individual
>>> and not the species (if you all me to use the biological concept)  
>>> then
>>> ontology is moved to becoming (mutation). This is the continuation  
>>> of the
>>> Nietzsche project from Twilight. Badiou strikes me as almost equally
>>> skeptical of the ontology, not the concept, but being itself.  As  
>>> with
>> most
>>> disagreements between Deleuze and Badiou, it comes down to their
>>> understanding of multiplicity and difference.
>>>
>>> (3) Nothing now.
>>>
>>> (4) There seems to be some aggreement that D & G's politics would be
>>> different from Badiou's, hence not militant.  I am not sure if this  
>>> true.
>> I
>>> do not see that D&G are not setting up a radical militant politics
>> although
>>> it does take on a group dynamic that is absent from Badiou.  Although
>> Badiou
>>> is highly involved with non-party politics, it still seems that  
>>> processes
>>> that bring about the militant have a party look to them. If we think  
>>> about
>>> is continually example Paul I think we see the party lurking in the
>>> background, or at least the shadow of party lurking in the  
>>> background. I
>>> think this is what Zizek means when he says that Badiou is afraid to
>> ex-cize
>>> Stalin.
>>>
>>> (5) Deleuze was famous for his dis-taste for TRUTH, but Badiou's  
>>> reworking
>>> of the term renders most of Deleuze's objections mute. Perhaps like  
>>> not
>>> wanting to be surround by "scarecrows and suken faces" (Nietzsche  
>>> "the Gay
>>> Science), deleuze's rejection of truth is just a matter of taste.
>>>
>>> sid
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