[D-G] Plane of Reference

Liza Kozner liza_kozner at yahoo.co.uk
Wed Feb 23 16:15:29 PST 2005


DearChris
What is the metaphorest? Is it full of dandelions and
kids kissing under it? I have been in one of those
places once and I got crucified by an old woman who
said she was Virgin. Is it near SanGiminiano. Lucca is
very old city. Have you seen the tower in Pisa? Do you
know Leonardo DaVincci. I adore Rennaissance painters,
and also Raphael, Nietzsche bytheway liked Rapphael.
There is an expo in Louvres which could interest you.
The other town, Rapallo sounds Italian, but i am not
sure if it's near Rimini. Please don't talk about
food, I have just eaten Crisps. LOL
Liza
 --- Chris Chapman <chapman0603 at rogers.com> wrote: 
> Don't get lost in the metaphorest on your way but
> have a nice trip though. 
> Be sure to stop-in at Rapallo if you get a chance
> and have a sausage with a
> bit o' mint.
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
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> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 2:38 PM
> To:
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> Subject: RE: [D-G] Plane of Reference
> 
> Dear
> ChrisChapman
> :
> I have succeeded a mobile connection by plugging a
> "wap" module in a mobile. I no longer rely on Wi-Fi
> and free-ways Wi-FI poles, was hoping to tell you
> but
> now can do it within this communication; you'd be
> delighted to know, I was sure and so wrote you about
> it: indeed: Now it seems I can chat with you all the
> while of the ride, Lucy drivings of the truck on the
> freeways large curves, make a conterpoint to the
> luminosity as it is setting away from my reading
> eyes,
> the dark clouds of a thunderous night are escaping
> from the freeway's horizon of visibility, so
>  i lean and loaf like while i write you, in the back
> near the commodities we are carrying to Italy, I am
> leaning I am taking WIP? in between my hands: i have
> left my socks leaning behind Lucy's seat also. I am
> taking my eases like you, no worry needed here, no
> trouble mentioned. The truck's floor shakes though
> like an ocean of magnetic needles , of rumbling
> materials vibrating under my back. Wait, I am
> putting
> myself on now the Stand-By mode is brightening my
> face, if this is not disturbing you . I will load
> your
> eyes with perceptive informations. With scientific
> functives (variables and abscisses going to the
> limit)
> But I need to put a limit to my partial observer
> here
> and there. I am sorry dear.
> ByeBye
> 
> Liza
>  --- Chris Chapman <chapman0603 at rogers.com> wrote: 
> > I read 'le plan est feuilleté' as 'le pain est
> > feuilleté' and laughed,
> > thinking: 'I lean and loaf at my ease'.
> > 
> > Chris.
> > (not a steak house)
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> >
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> >
>
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> > On
> > Behalf Of Lucy LeGentilSinge
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:54 PM
> > To:
> > deleuze-guattari-driftline.org at lists.driftline.org
> > Subject: RE: [D-G] Plane of Reference
> > 
> > Oh Chris,  
> > it's great if you can help us: in my truck with
> Lucy
> > we're reading WIP? in French (Français), and we
> were
> > wondering if Plane of Reference had been read by
> > some
> > of D-G listers.
> > I don't reckon many discussions conforted by
> > reader's
> > personal re/actions to the book, have been
> > constructed
> > either on list or elswhere yet, relating to
> Science,
> > and Deleuze's relation to Science, especially as
> > exposed in "Functive and Concepts" part of WIP?
> > 
> > It's more like: what have been Scientific's
> > approaches
> > in relation to ideas developped by WIP? Do you
> have
> > links, or referent books, but rather, does the
> book
> > itself suggests to you a way to approach
> scientific
> > constructions in a positive way, that you could
> talk
> > about here, yourself Chris or other here? That
> would
> > be more interesting than discussing Nietzsche as
> > usual. Don't you find by the way that the identity
> > Nietzsche, Spinoza and DG is becoming paradigmatic
> > rather than Syntagmatic, to pinacle the use of the
> > word: Deleuze seems to suggest that Philosophy as
> he
> > understood it with Guattari, was Syntagmatic, and
> > called for a truth of the relative, le plan est
> > feuilleté , ie.The plane of Immanence is
> > "Interleaved", and later on page 50 British
> edition.
> > That Science was like André Breton's vase
> > communiquants, that it's constructed by variables
> > and
> > that Philosophy is rather Syntagmatic, because the
> > variations are consistent with the development of
> > Infinite movement, and that Science was
> > bifurcations,
> > made by cuts, and that Scientifics needed
> > perceptions
> > and affections of cuts. It's very messy a
> > descritption
> > and the best communication would eshew from each
> > one's
> > reading the book.
> > 
> > But I am also reading Stengers and Shlanger "Les
> > concepts Scientifiques". Stengers also knows
> Deleuze
> > very well. She is doing a constructivism now since
> a
> > long time it seems . With Prygogyne. Are these
> > themes
> > interesting for you. ? I was interested by
> Harald's
> > ideas because he said he was a Scientific. Lucy is
> a
> > Scientist too you know. I am learning from him but
> I
> > was hoping to learn from others. But no one
> answers
> > yet. The Scientists: are they interested by
> Deleuze?
> > Are they superficially so, or enthusiastically,
> and
> > how can we learn from their enthusisam, and have
> > clues
> > for our own enthusisasm for DG?
> > 
> > We have to take the truck to an other spot. I am
> > waiting Lucy who is loading oil in a tank. We make
> > provision so we don't have to stop and can relax
> in
> > the rear of the truck. Someone reads WIP?, the
> other
> > is driving. There's some "bouchons", the road,
> with
> > it's traffic  is not fluid, it's allosteric would
> > say
> > Jacques Monod "Hazard and Necessity", page 130
> WIP?
> > British Edition. We are expected in Nice at Night.
> > Meanwhile,
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Liza
> > 
> >  --- Chris Chapman <chapman0603 at rogers.com> wrote:
> 
> > > Liza
> > > 
> > > Want and able -- well you know the rest. 
> > > 
> > > If I can give it a decent shot, I'll try.  
> > > 
> > > Quest'ce que c'est?
> > > 
> > > Chris.
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
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> >
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> >
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> > > On
> > > Behalf Of Lucy LeGentilSinge
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2005 1:22 PM
> > > To:
> > >
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> > > Subject: Re: [D-G] Plane of Reference
> 
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