[D-G] more capitalist than the capitalists, more socialist than the socialists

Dr. Harald Wenk hwenk at web.de
Tue Feb 22 09:16:39 PST 2005


Am Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:59:21 -0800 schrieb Sylvie Ruelle  
<sylvieruelle at earthlink.net>:
Hello,

as far as I see that doesn't give any rise of messes.
Proust doesn't seem to have had much mess, for the most time he
literates in his bedroom.
The idea, the the abcdaire is long after anti-oedipus,
he means that you search for some kind of snmell
oe feeling, which in general is produced by a specific situation.
Thisw is already done by Spinoza, who confirms that
all circumstances of the first time of leasure must come togetther to  
repeat
its intensity, the spirit feels unhappy if a thing misses.
But that fits in affect and association psychology.
The unconciusness is aproduction, so it tries to
produce a situation of pleasure.
Thats natural and healthy.
Staying at the same sitation, it gets a habit.
The habit becomes bad, if as Spinoza puts it,
one part of the body gots pleasure and other
parts get worse, loose beatitude.
So eating sugar tastes good, but too much and you are getting fat and  
immobile.
As already Aristotle in his Nikomache Ethics said, it is a question
of measure.
Bad habits override measures.

Greetings


> desire is defined by deleuze here:
> http://www.langlab.wayne.edu/CStivale/D-G/ABC1.html
>
>
> On Feb 22, 2005, at 8:17 AM, Dr. Harald Wenk wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> perhaps one has to distinguish desires from bad habits.
>>
>> Greetings
>> Am Tue, 22 Feb 2005 08:13:23 -0800 schrieb Sylvie Ruelle  
>> <sylvieruelle at earthlink.net>:
>>
>>> it's the mystery about imagining the whole society following it's  
>>> desires
>>> all the people each following one's desires
>>> seem like it would be a mess
>>>
>>> On Feb 22, 2005, at 8:08 AM, Dr. Harald Wenk wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:59:50 -0800 schrieb Sylvie Ruelle  
>>>> <sylvieruelle at earthlink.net>:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Sylvie,
>>>>
>>>> i am a little bit puzzeled about your mistrust ib your desires.
>>>> Deleuz and Guattari thought the unconciousness as "rousseauistic" (in  
>>>> Anti-Oedipus),
>>>> a healthy natural state. Thre only unhealthy desire is that of  
>>>> suppressing
>>>> somebody, especially your nearest.
>>>> But that, I think, is known through the ages.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings Harald Wenk
>>>>
>>>>> It's interesting to think of a world where everyone does what they  
>>>>> desire...
>>>>> I wonder what it would be like...
>>>>> I mean, if i could do what i "desire", in the way that i understand  
>>>>> it, what would i be doing?...
>>>>> It's difficult to say or even think because, one has to have healthy  
>>>>> desires (DG), and the state one is in, the ways things are now,
>>>>> might not allow that to even be thought.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 22, 2005, at 6:13 AM, Dr. Harald Wenk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> Ms. Sylvie Ruelle
>>>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~sylvieruelle
>>>>> rw_artette_lc at yahoo.com
>>>>>
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> rw_artette_lc at yahoo.com
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